Alty_Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I'm genuinely glad that there are some optimists about but I think that we are miles from being a competitive force even if we sign the trialists. The squad is palpably weaker than last year IMHO even with them. The central defence recruitment smacks of desperation and is just not enough for a season and we are desperate for more goals from the whole team. Far too often last year we were seen of by teams who knew that once they got their noses out in front then we wouldn't score. That's not to say that it is hopeless as a fit Bielik is a massive asset to return and if we can sort ownership issues then we may yet reinforce but I can't see much happening beyond the trialists and the danger is that we are dead and buried by the time the January window opens. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 14 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Much though I love CKR I think we really need a 15/20 goals a season striker (doesn't everyone)! I think if we could find/sign one then we've definitely got the bones of a good team, especially with Bielik fit. What do you reckon? I'd agree if you add in a bit of luck around injuries. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Mr Tibbs said: I think as a team we just need more goals in general. I'm longing for the days when goals just came from everywhere. Russell, Ward, Dawkins, Hendrick, Hughes... didn't even need a striker! Just good old movement and good use of the ball. I'd even take a set piece specialist like Inigo to bag us 10 goals a year, we haven't even got that. It's down to Rooney to sort our poo out and try and progress our playing style. Lawrence has got to get back in the goals, Joz has got to kick on. When we can we've got to try and address that midfield because we're in for another drab season in front of goal with those centre mids IMO. CKR will lead the line well again but his form will probably fall off a cliff again, as he tires over the season (as expected at his age and zero depth to give him a breather). Not going to panic just yet, as depressing as the squad looks, it is what it is. Let's see what wheeling and dealing we can do when we're allowed. I think you would be surprised with the actual number of goals scored by the players you mentioned during the 2014 season russell-8, ward-6, Hughes-3, Hendricks-9,Dawkins-5 so none of them got double figures, it’s weird because I also have the feeling that they all got 15 goals each.. but like you say, we desperately need someone in midfield to contribute, captain Tom needs to step up and get as close to 15 goals as he can and Joz and shinnie need to be hitting 8-10 each…… it’s on.! jono and Mr Tibbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: I think you would be surprised with the actual number of goals scored by the players you mentioned during the 2014 season russell-8, ward-6, Hughes-3, Hendricks-9,Dawkins-5 so none of them got double figures, it’s weird because I also have the feeling that they all got 15 goals each.. but like you say, we desperately need someone in midfield to contribute, captain Tom needs to step up and get as close to 15 goals as he can and Joz and shinnie need to be hitting 8-10 each…… it’s on.! No surprise at all. I purposely left Bryson out because it makes the argument depressing. It's exactly what we need though IMO, not the shower we had last year. 36 goals last year in total (15 players) and those 5 players scored 31 alone! 46 goals with Bryson.... 6 players. Dawkins played half a season and is often forgot but he would have been our second top scorer last year. I don't think we need our lads to hit double figures, just for them to spread it around like that 14 lot did. A minimum 5+ goals each would be a start from Lawrence, Joz, Knight, Shinnie and Bird. Then a couple of competent strikers on top of that will finish it off. If we're honest there's no way we can't improve on last year, I just hope we get close to doubling our GF column, not just adding a few to it. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Our midfield doesn't look remotely interested in scoring goals. They rarely get into the box or take potshots from outside the box. Well Bird does and they still have a search party out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Our midfield doesn't look remotely interested in scoring goals. They rarely get into the box or take potshots from outside the box. Well Bird does and they still have a search party out! Thought he looked a bit more positive with Carroll. Aluko, Lawrence and Joz might manage to give themselves nose-bleeds by getting up field. ? Anag Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Supercomputer predicts where Derby County will finish in Championship campaign https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/supercomputer-predicts-final-championship-table-5707905#ICID=Android_DerbyTelegraphNewApp_AppShare I'll take 17th at the moment all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Ilsonram12 said: Supercomputer predicts where Derby County will finish in Championship campaign https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/supercomputer-predicts-final-championship-table-5707905#ICID=Android_DerbyTelegraphNewApp_AppShare I'll take 17th at the moment all day long Is that a straight line or amortised projection? ? Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, MuespachRam said: I think you would be surprised with the actual number of goals scored by the players you mentioned during the 2014 season russell-8, ward-6, Hughes-3, Hendricks-9,Dawkins-5 so none of them got double figures, it’s weird because I also have the feeling that they all got 15 goals each.. but like you say, we desperately need someone in midfield to contribute, captain Tom needs to step up and get as close to 15 goals as he can and Joz and shinnie need to be hitting 8-10 each…… it’s on.! Thought this was the case when I saw the original post. Dawkins was FAR from prolific and, every season, we were wanting Hughes to find his shooting boots. He was always so reluctant to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Scott129 said: Thought this was the case when I saw the original post. Dawkins was FAR from prolific and, every season, we were wanting Hughes to find his shooting boots. He was always so reluctant to shoot. Seem to remember fans calling out many of those listed as goal-shy, Hendrick and Russell too, and calling for better. Beware of what you wish for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 18 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Much though I love CKR I think we really need a 15/20 goals a season striker (doesn't everyone)! I think if we could find/sign one then we've definitely got the bones of a good team, especially with Bielik fit. What do you reckon? Obviously need that kind of goal scorer and yes they make up for a lot of deficits in a side - example A Bobby Davison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Ram1988 said: I'm not sure there are many 15/20 goal a season strikers around on a free transfer. Failing that I would take either Gregory or Baldock in the short term as CZR's back up under the circumstances or maybe we could get a young CF on loan ? Ellis Simms from Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Premier ram said: Ellis Simms from Everton Interesting choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I wonder if there's any chance we could get Liam Delap back, on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I think the problems are deeper than just acquiring a goalscorer or they at least where last year. No player last year really scored at the level previous seasons would indicate which suggests something of a more global issue. A clinical player would have improved things last year but not by a huge amount I suspect. The problem often seemed to be having an idea, a plan, a playing style to generate chances of sufficient quality. Have we dealt with these issues on the training field ? Time will tell because if they haven't... it won't matter a huge amount who we sign (especially given the restrictions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Probably a goalscorer, 2 good centrebacks and 2 back ups, a progressive midfielder, competent goalkeeper, wideman who chips in with more than 3 goals a season, and a competent manager away from being a "good" team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mr Tibbs said: No surprise at all. I purposely left Bryson out because it makes the argument depressing. It's exactly what we need though IMO, not the shower we had last year. 36 goals last year in total (15 players) and those 5 players scored 31 alone! 46 goals with Bryson.... 6 players. Dawkins played half a season and is often forgot but he would have been our second top scorer last year. I don't think we need our lads to hit double figures, just for them to spread it around like that 14 lot did. A minimum 5+ goals each would be a start from Lawrence, Joz, Knight, Shinnie and Bird. Then a couple of competent strikers on top of that will finish it off. If we're honest there's no way we can't improve on last year, I just hope we get close to doubling our GF column, not just adding a few to it. Don't forget Martin scored 21 league goals that season too. At the moment we have no prolific striker and few others in the strike force or midfield who can share them out either. We are knackered in all depts. Edited July 28, 2021 by kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Scott129 said: we were wanting Hughes to find his shooting boots. He was always so reluctant to shoot. he did......against us tho! another one of our goal shy ex players to add to list who’ve scored against us 1. poom 2. huddlestone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, ram59 said: I wonder if there's any chance we could get Liam Delap back, on loan? Off to a German club on loan apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, NottsRam77 said: Goalkeepers - good ???? really ? both are error prone and I’m consistent it’s as bad a goalkeeping situation as I can remember for a while tbh remember growing up we we’re always quite blessed in that department mark wallington, shilton, Taylor , poom etc Yeah? I think you've left it a bit late to offer your services for this season, maybe a trial next year? Anyone got Wayne's mobile number? NottsRam77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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