PistoldPete Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: when they were most recently sold earlier this year the club I believe was debt free and atm is close to being sustainably run. They were debt free after the takeover, certainly not before. That is quite common when you get new owners. Derby are also close to being sutainably run..once we get season ticket money in. Just the little matter of the debt and new owners to sort out. Edited October 5, 2021 by PistoldPete r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 50 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: "Carl Jackson, from Derby's administrators Quantuma, said on Tuesday: “We’ve had some very positive discussions with Arsenal and they’ve allowed us to defer those payments until a later date. “That has freed up some cash for us and that’s been agreed in writing. “It will certainly help our cash-flow over the course of the next two to three months and also sorts out any threatened embargo from the EFL at the same time.” angieram, ariotofmyown, Kathcairns and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: "Carl Jackson, from Derby's administrators Quantuma, said on Tuesday: “We’ve had some very positive discussions with Arsenal and they’ve allowed us to defer those payments until a later date. “That has freed up some cash for us and that’s been agreed in writing. “It will certainly help our cash-flow over the course of the next two to three months and also sorts out any threatened embargo from the EFL at the same time.” So we are selling Bielik back to arsenal in january? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Jim wheeler thinks the EFL are wanting the best for Derby . I beg to differ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Why is the HMRC debt over 26 Million ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 hours ago, atherstoneram said: That can't be guaranteed if we are relegated,loss of TV income etc. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/366661/vas-factsheet_1_.pdf Historically speaking it can be guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, Curtains said: Why is the HMRC debt over 26 Million ! Because HMRC did not chase up any debts during Covid and MM obviously saw this as a good opportunity to run up debt that he would not be liable for. He used HMRC as a cheap source of financing and left DCFC to pick up the tab. Forget anything else he did that was good for the club and his sob story about writing out cheques every month, basically he thinks it is righg for the taxpayer to bear the cost of his mistakes. Grumpy Git, QuitYourJibbaJivin, England Ram and 13 others 3 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Because HMRC did not chase up any debts during Covid and MM obviously saw this as a good opportunity to run up debt that he would not be liable for. He used HMRC as a cheap source of financing and left DCFC to pick up the tab. Forget anything else he did that was good for the club and his sob story about writing out cheques every month, basically he thinks it is righg for the taxpayer to bear the cost of his mistakes. Well if a takeover takes place the new owners pick up most of the HMRC debt ! PS Some might be at 25 percent but how much ! Edited October 5, 2021 by Curtains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: They were debt free after the takeover, certainly not before. That is quite common when you get new owners. Derby are also close to being sutainably run..once we get season ticket money in. Just the little matter of the debt and new owners to sort out. I believe I read Charlie Methvin had claimed they were debt free before the takeover this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTFR Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 File this under: Threads that could have been a post. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong, Carnero, CollyerDCFC and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Well they have certainly saved us from MM piling more debt on us. Unfortunately the way they went about that was by backing us into a corner which we struggle to get out of. Personally feel the battle became personal to both sides and, unfortunately, neither side had anything to gain out of it other than personal pride. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: So we are selling Bielik back to arsenal in january? Could end up just giving him back against the debt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: Well if a takeover takes place the new owners pick up most of the HMRC debt ! PS Some might be at 25 percent but how much ! Exactly, nobody should be paying the debt other than the person/people who got us in a position of running up such a debt. Derby4Me, r_wilcockson, Kathcairns and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Heisenberg said: Which one of our players are they after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, BuckoBeast said: Max is good. But not that good Neither are the Arsenal players ! RadioactiveWaste and BuckoBeast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, UTFR said: File this under: Threads that could have been a post. My threads always have this reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Well they have certainly saved us from MM piling more debt on us. Unfortunately the way they went about that was by backing us into a corner which we struggle to get out of. Personally feel the battle became personal to both sides and, unfortunately, neither side had anything to gain out of it other than personal pride. Never looked at it like that before . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Curtains said: My threads always have this reaction Brilliant thread Curtains ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 33 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: "Carl Jackson, from Derby's administrators Quantuma, said on Tuesday: “We’ve had some very positive discussions with Arsenal and they’ve allowed us to defer those payments until a later date. “That has freed up some cash for us and that’s been agreed in writing. “It will certainly help our cash-flow over the course of the next two to three months and also sorts out any threatened embargo from the EFL at the same time.” C'mon kids let's all sing along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Maybe Birch isn’t onside least not fully https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10060109/Derby-Countys-future-hangs-balance-taxpayers-bail-club-say-analysts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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