IslandExile Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Wisdom says 'weird' https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andre-wisdom-derby-county-defender-8404754 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I liked him when he was here and wanted him to say but so much I’ve heard since about what it was like at moor farm makes me glad he went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Sorry, not very good with football facts - Does anyone know who Arthur Cox was managing in 1988? Mostyn6 and DarkFruitsRam7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleover ram Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 12:12, IslandExile said: Wisdom says 'weird' https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andre-wisdom-derby-county-defender-8404754 Sounds like Wisdom didn’t like collective punishment for one player being late IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 22 hours ago, tinman said: I liked him when he was here and wanted him to say but so much I’ve heard since about what it was like at moor farm makes me glad he went. Spill the beans, dish the dirt, tell all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 EtoileSportiveDeDerby, Steve How Hard?, richinspain and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 He’s done it! Chelsea are now mathematically safe from relegation, where the haters at? Van der MoodHoover, TigerTedd and Mostyn6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, David said: He’s done it! Chelsea are now mathematically safe from relegation, where the haters at? 😱 EtoileSportiveDeDerby, Hans Datdo-Dishes, Mostyn6 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, David said: He’s done it! Chelsea are now mathematically safe from relegation, where the haters at? Now he’s saved chelsea maybe Leeds should sack big Sam and get Frankie boy in there ,, the man is a miracle worker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Worst caretaker since Ian Huntley. littleover ram, ziggyram59 and EtoileSportiveDeDerby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) So where does our frank rock up next , or does he figure he’s not really cut out for management and go the pundit route ? hard to see anything above championship level for him at this point , if he’s desperate to be a manager and prepared to drop levels to learn his trade then that’s laudable and would be the wise and perhaps more likeable humble route Edited May 29, 2023 by Archied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I really hope I never see him managing another football club in England. Maybe USA soccer or god help us he becomes a pundit. As a manager I would rate him about 2/10. Been a failure at every club he has been at I noticed yesterday he tried to put all the blame on the Chelsea players I know the haven't be great but come on Lampard take some responsibility whilst you have been there this season. 🤬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I reckon if he stayed à little longer at Everton then straight to Chelsea, he could have relegated both clubs. Now that is impressive. ziggyram59 and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 21 hours ago, ziggyram59 said: I really hope I never see him managing another football club in England. Maybe USA soccer or god help us he becomes a pundit. As a manager I would rate him about 2/10. Been a failure at every club he has been at I noticed yesterday he tried to put all the blame on the Chelsea players I know the haven't be great but come on Lampard take some responsibility whilst you have been there this season. 🤬 How was his stint at Derby a failure? His first stint at Chelsea shouldn't be regarded as a failure in my opinion either. I agree that he's looked clueless in his last two jobs though. This current disaster at Chelsea has severely damaged his job prospects and I think the best he can hope for is a mid to lower table Championship club. I think saying the Chelsea players haven't been great is vastly underselling the situation. They are a squad of lazy, overpaid, prima donnas, robbed of motivation by the ludicrous contracts handed out by Boehly. Lampard can't have too many complaints because it was clear what was happening before he took the job, but he's the third manager these players have hung out to dry this season alone. They are the only constant in this situation and I'd be fuming with them if I were in Lampard's shoes. TomTom92 and Steve How Hard? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, Anon said: How was his stint at Derby a failure? He took a team that finished 6th, added 3 future internationals and 3 of probably the top 5ish players in the league, and finished 6th - just. Archied and ziggyram59 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 His managerial record with Jody Morris alongside him is much better than without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Srg said: He took a team that finished 6th, added 3 future internationals and 3 of probably the top 5ish players in the league, and finished 6th - just. I can't stand this revisionism regarding that season. It comes up all the time. Of those 3, only Mount came with a big reputation. How is it a fair assessment to look at where those players are now and retroactively base judgement on a manager that had them when they were teenagers? Do you think losing Vydra, who'd scored 21 goals the previous season, might have had an effect? You say top 5ish players, but our forward line for that season in Marriott, Waghorn, and Bennett aren't and have never been close to being top end championship players. Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Anon said: I can't stand this revisionism regarding that season. It comes up all the time. Of those 3, only Mount came with a big reputation. How is it a fair assessment to look at where those players are now and retroactively base judgement on a manager that had them when they were teenagers? Do you think losing Vydra, who'd scored 21 goals the previous season, might have had an effect? You say top 5ish players, but our forward line for that season in Marriott, Waghorn, and Bennett aren't and have never been close to being top end championship players. How is it revisionist history? Those players, at the time, were that good for that league. Lampard couldn't buy a result when Mount got injured. Told you all you need to know about how he was being carried by talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Srg said: How is it revisionist history? Those players, at the time, were that good for that league. Lampard couldn't buy a result when Mount got injured. Told you all you need to know about how he was being carried by talent. Yes, good enough for that league, not the league the league above and not necessarily good enough for promotion. I'm not claiming Lampard was some kind of genius, he had obvious tactical limitations. I struggle with the idea of writing off 6th place as a failure. Are you genuinely telling me that at the start of that season you would've regarded anything less than promotion as a failure? Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Anon said: Yes, good enough for that league, not the league the league above and not necessarily good enough for promotion. I'm not claiming Lampard was some kind of genius, he had obvious tactical limitations. I struggle with the idea of writing off 6th place as a failure. Are you genuinely telling me that at the start of that season you would've regarded anything less than promotion as a failure? No tangible improvement over a Gary Rowett team with a better squad is a failure, yes. I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with at the start, I've already said 3 of the top 5 or so players in the Championship, I haven't said anything about the Premier League. The only credit Lampard gets is a team spirit. He fostered great togetherness in that team, which is likely the only we came back at Leeds. Beyond that, he was bad and the rest of his career to date has shown that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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