inter politics Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Okay, we cannot appeal the decision but can we appeal the punishment? r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinRam Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: If his figures were right what would the likely points deduction be, any ideas??? They can deduct something like 21 or 24 points but i reckon it would be 6-12 MaltRam, i-Ram and LeedsCityRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, nottingram said: Surely it isn’t as simple as saying that if we have to make adjustments, we fail P&S and get punished because if the EFL had done their jobs in the first place, as the governing body, they would have pulled Derby up on it. Derby would surely then have adjusted transfer plans accordingly to meet P&S at the time? Why do you think we had a unique policy in the first place? Just might be possible that we couldn’t adjust without getting a points penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, inter politics said: Okay, we cannot appeal the decision but can we appeal the punishment? Yep, punishment is a fifty quid fine, Mel offers £25 for cash and we all move on... IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, EdinRam said: They can deduct something like 21 or 24 points but i reckon it would be 6-12 Based on what? Throwing darts at a dart board? Reggie Greenwood and Will Hughes Hair 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, inter politics said: Okay, we cannot appeal the decision but can we appeal the punishment? I don’t there is a mechanism to do so, off to the courts. Not in anybody’s interest to go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, EdinRam said: They can deduct something like 21 or 24 points but i reckon it would be 6-12 6 might just be about manageable, 12 and we are in big trouble....anything above that we are doomed, I say doomed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, inter politics said: I'm not saying who's right, as I haven't calculated it. Just for reference. It’s funny, one reply to him saying PL teams operate a similar policy and he replies one minute later saying they don’t. Numerous other replies asking him how he has arrived at his figures given transfers are largely undisclosed and asking for a bit more detail met with radio silence. Football finance expert my ********. r_wilcockson, Comrade 86, Colm and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, nottingram said: Surely it isn’t as simple as saying that if we have to make adjustments, we fail P&S and get punished because if the EFL had done their jobs in the first place, as the governing body, they would have pulled Derby up on it. Derby would surely then have adjusted transfer plans accordingly to meet P&S at the time? That was part of Derby's argument in the first hearing IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: Yep, punishment is a fifty quid fine, Mel offers £25 for cash and we all move on... I wish. All things considered, whilst I wouldn't like it, I'd maybe take a 6 point deduction at this juncture so we can finally move on. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, nottingram said: It’s funny, one reply to him saying PL teams operate a similar policy and he replies one minute later saying they don’t. Numerous other replies asking him how he has arrived at his figures given transfers are largely undisclosed and asking for a bit more detail met with radio silence. Football finance expert my ********. Trying to guess what that eight letter word is...can you give us a couple of letters..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spanish said: Why do you think we had a unique policy in the first place? Just might be possible that we couldn’t adjust without getting a points penalty Okay well in that case they pull us up on it after one year of doing it, probably miss out on the play offs (unsure on the time frame) and move on from there accordingly. However it played out it does not excuse the incompetence of them not spotting it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just going back to basics and excuse my ignorance but who said we cant use the amortisation policy we decided to use? Who said it was wrong and why is it wrong? Indy and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, inter politics said: I wish. All things considered, whilst I wouldn't like it, I'd maybe take a 6 point deduction at this juncture so we can finally move on. We appeal the punishment and get it down to 3...then we all move on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: About £4.7m inside the limit. 1 hour ago, Spanish said: so if any of the amortisation appears in 2018 that now has to be written back it needs to be leess than £4m over 3 years, we're ducked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: Trying to guess what that eight letter word is...can you give us a couple of letters..... Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: We appeal the punishment and get it down to 3...then we all move on.... Yep, I'm just concerned it will be in the double figures. Hopefully Nicholson is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Just going back to basics and excuse my ignorance but who said we cant use the amortisation policy we decided to use? Who said it was wrong and why is it wrong? EFL wasn't it, we didn't use the right methodology/correct accounts procedure in player valuations or something like that. Is anyone else getting worn out with this and the takeover...why can't we have a period where we can just enjoy staying up and look forward to next season with a new Manager and a refreshed squad..... NottsRam77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Just what I've heard. I don't claim to be in the know. I've heard this and will pass it on. And what I've heard is Alonso is not taking over this football club. I have absolutely no idea who is. But it's not going to be Alonso. I hope that means we can consign this photo to history DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, nottingram said: Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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