Will Hughes Hair Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Arsene Titman said: I’m not sure if this has been posted but this is part of The Times article that explains why Cocu did badly at Fenerbache. ”Cocu, who was No 2 to Bert Van Marwijk when Holland reached the 2010 World Cup final, has been out of work since being dismissed by Fenerbahce last October just four months into an ill-fated stint in Turkey. However the Istanbul club were operating within budget constraints and attempting to refashion their squad using young players, in an effort to comply with Uefa Financial Fair Play Rules.” Are you reading Frank? This is your future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Excited by this if true....... seems to fit Mel’s profile perfectly. Hope it’s not just a lazy link because of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Cuckoo’s make use of recently departed nests don’t they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 If this comes off, I seriously hope Mel is giving some thought to changing the name of RamsTV to Cocu Channel! It has a certain je ne sais quoi about it! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy90 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I always think average points per game, rather than win percentage, gives a more accurate figure for managers. Cocu @ Fenerbahce - 0.93 Cocu @ PSV Eindhoven - 2.22 Cocu average ppg - 1.57 Frank Lampard’s last season was 1.63. Looks like Cocu had a mess to sort at Fenerbahce, so an average ppg of 2.22 is very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Cocky’s black and white army - has a nice ring to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF Ram Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Is the journalist who has published this reputable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy90 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Can Derby afford Cocu? Taking into consideration how much Derby we’re willing to pay Frank to stay, this article confirms yes... “His annual salary is reported to be €2.5 million, about 5 times more than what he was earning at his previous club (PSV).” https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.turkishfootballnews.com/2018/06/22/fenerbahce-appoint-phillip-cocu-manager/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, big bad ram said: Is the journalist who has published this reputable? He's got the Michael Johnson seal of approval, and that's good enough for me: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jonesy90 said: I always think average points per game, rather than win percentage, gives a more accurate figure for managers. Cocu @ Fenerbahce - 0.93 Cocu @ PSV Eindhoven - 2.22 Cocu average ppg - 1.57 Frank Lampard’s last season was 1.63. Looks like Cocu had a mess to sort at Fenerbahce, so an average ppg of 2.22 is very impressive. Not sure where the 1.57 ppg comes from - over his managerial career with both clubs it's 2.08 - still impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookiebear1 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 This is the best thing I've read in a long while. All managers are a risk but Cocu at Derby c'mon everyone's got to be happy about this... Beats the shizzle out of the Gary Monk Big Dave roumers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jonesy90 said: Can Derby afford Cocu? Taking into consideration how much Derby we’re willing to pay Frank to stay, this article confirms yes... “His annual salary is reported to be €2.5 million, about 5 times more than what he was earning at his previous club (PSV).” https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.turkishfootballnews.com/2018/06/22/fenerbahce-appoint-phillip-cocu-manager/amp/ Unless Fenerbahce are still paying up his contract then his current salary is £0 - that's not to say he would come cheap, even if there was interest on his part (which I would be more than happy with). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 I’m excited by the pedigree of this guy. It almost seems similar to a Bielsa style appointment (obviously not as experienced but it feels similar). All very quiet and this journalist / The Times aren’t usually offering Derby updates. Be interesting to know if it’s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Steve Nicholson come out and said the the Cocu reports are "Wide of the mark" yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Steve Nicholson come out and said the the Cocu reports are "Wide of the mark" yet? Not yet, fella. Anyone you could ask on this? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 6 hours ago, angieram said: If appointed will @RamNut change his name? Will there be Forum wars, @Coconut? PS First name that I am excited about. Could we afford him? In the event of this happening I'd consider changing my username to Cocunut, but I think it would irritate the bejeezus out of the grammar nazi in me every time I saw it! Worse yet I'd be worried people thought I was too stupid to spell coconut correctly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 If Lampard goes, Cocu would be a huge coup. I’ve mentioned before the need to follow on from Lampard with an exciting appointment because it would massively soften the blow of losing him. This time last year, Frank arrived and I’ve honestly never seen the forum so united behind a decision or appointment before. There was genuine excitement and I think almost everyone was wishing the season started tomorrow. I’m not saying managers like Darren Moore or Phil Neville would fail here, and if we went that way I would get behind them, but it would not excite me in the slightest, and as much as I’d try to be optimistic about the season, it would be much harder to do that. You can read the threads on here to see the reaction of simply being linked to the these kinds of managers, let alone actually hiring them, and it’s obvious there are many likely candidates that would strongly divide opinion. Cocu is one of the few who I think would genuinely make Lampard leaving seem like less of an issue. It would hopefully mean we are less transitional in terms of style or needing to find certain personnel to suit a different style, and would mean the time lost in preparation from the managerial change doesn’t hinder our prospects his year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 The kids will love him........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Cocu would be an exciting appointment wouldn't he ? ? Bit of research plays an attacking 4-3-3 using the wide areas to attack from( bit Mac 1 esque) like a zonal marking system . For anyone fancying a bit if f light Sunday afternoon reading http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/07/30/tactical-philosophy-philip-cocu/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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