IlsonDerby

7 hours ago, ossieram said:

It's not a chant I'd sing or agree with, but some Derby fans are really up themselves if they think our fans are going to be the only ones in the country not to sing tasteless or hurtful songs.

Hey I’d rather be ‘up myself’ and hope that our fans can handle a couple of shandies without feeling the urge to start calling someone a rapist/sex offender. 
 

but that’s just me. Proper up myself. Expecting a bit of decency. Up myself. 

4 minutes ago, LauraH said:

We'll never be friends with Billy Sharp let's be honest. Toxic. 

It doesn’t matter. Twice now our fans have referred to him as a sex offender. Is there any evidence of this because it’s woeful if not. 
 

Cringey as owt. 
proper small time. 
 

By all means give him the ‘is a Wayne carr’ chants but the other stuff is sewage.

we need as many friends as possible in football right now. 

Special mention for Bird who absolutely looks to have come of age this year, he’s a unit now. Not the same kid being shrugged off the ball by your Jamie ward types. 

At this stage I’d have a photo of Davies as the badge on our Phoenix Club’s shirt. 

Give him a lifetime contract. 

Big Ravel creating 2 goals in 2 sun appearances. (I know it’s a stretch to give him credit for Mondays but he was closing their defender down when the mix up happened) ?

Put it on Mels parking spot 

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

For context, Rotherham's wage bill in League 1 is usually about £6m. They have a turnover of just under £10m which tends to mean they run at breakeven at that level.

We'd have a budget, approx £10m higher, but will spend £4m more on the academy. Other costs will be higher than Rotherham's so a £10m wage bill wouldn't be unreasonable.

Worth remembering there is a salary cap in league 1 and 2 now too? 

1) the club is still alive and has its medium term future secured. 
 

2) we start to identify targets that can take us up next season or at least push at the right end of the league - will not be a given just look at some of the big clubs that have struggled to bounce back before us - and begin to use the second half of the season to build for next season and ensure all players in the gaffers plans know their roles so we hit the ground running. 
 

3) once the ownership is sorted tie bird down to a long term contract and give him the armband. 

Don’t mind losing especially under the circumstances but the way we’ve lost the last 2 tells me that the ‘world against us but we carry on anyway’ attitude we’d shown has gone. Don’t look like they’re busting a gut for each other. 

4 minutes ago, Wistaston Ram said:

Yes that was pretty poor on their part spoiling an otherwise impeccable minute's silence.

Come off it. It was fans from the concourse with no idea it was going on… and why would they? Not even November yet, never mind the 11th. Just unfortunate. 

Simon Jordan beer mat Maths. Assuming someone has paid $70m and receives shares amounting to 1% of the business then technically the company is valued at $7bn. 
 

This is all very crude mine and doesn’t take into account that the investment probably combines some equity with debt and the amount paid for the shares may be smaller. 
 

Either way I take owt SJ says with a pinch of salt EA was a serious player according to him. 

1 hour ago, LazloW said:

If it turns out that there is more than one interested party at the end of the due diligence process (ie people haven’t been scared off), do you think the administrators will just plump for the party with the most cash (I’m assuming the asking price will be the same whoever is bidding) or will they determine who would be the ‘best fit’ to run the club in the long term?  
Obviously a moot point if it comes down to a bidding war, but if there’s more than one who can meet the asking price, I wonder what the criteria will be.

I think legally they have to go for the highest bid as they’re required to get the best deal for the creditors right?? 

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

I wonder how many people have stopped attending because they no longer feel comfortable with the behaviour of some of our 'fans'.

I often find myself feeling a bit uncomfortable with fans’ behaviour. I won’t let it stop me attending because if people like me stop going there’s no one to dilute the idiots. 

Been lucky enough to not hear the 2 mentioned in the original post by @DarkFruitsRam7but the Collymore song and the Rooney shxgs who he wants song make me cringe to my core. Toenail curling stuff. 
 

“Mel got us cat 1 academy” well yeah because the administrators will agree to us continuing to pay the high fees associated with cat 1 status won’t they ?. 
 

I despise him. The way he was talking on that radio interview you’d think he was down to his last million but I’m sure that isn’t the case. 

I know it’s easy to say when it’s not my money but as far as I’m aware he could have paid off the entirety of the clubs debts - and still been richer than our wildest dreams. 
 

May have interpreted it differently to some but to me it sounded like he was keeping the stadium to ensure it was safe from the admin process? 

Can’t believe this is even a question. It’s a 0 and that’s being polite. 
 

I was foolish enough to think that someone who had accrued wealth of half a billion big ones in a tough business world knew what he was doing. I didn’t worry as much as I should about big spending because I thought - more business savvy person than me is signing on the dotted line for these we must be fine.

Taken us all for mugs and I genuinely hope it’s got to a point where he’s no longer a millionaire because in the real world that is what happens to people who make appalling decisions with their finances. 

6 hours ago, IronRam 140.6 said:

Administration clears debts that investors don't want to take on. Mel loses loads on DCFC, part of the deal is to pay off Dell out of his own pocket. Takeover happens for a quid. New investors can invest in the team not historical debt. In a years time the ground gets sold back to the club for 70million and Mel gets his sale price. 

 

A very shyster way of doing it. But I would probably do the same if that's what I was left with.

Administration isn’t the get out of jail free card people are suggesting. It’s a 2 year transfer embargo. It’s a massive points deduction. It is LIQUIDATION but if we cannot pay out liabilities with the potential of ceasing to trade. 

This is as bleak as any time in our history. Even when the chains were on the ground. Ultimately it’s much harder in 2021 to find a knight in shining armour to come and save us as the costs of running a club mean making a loss. 

On 10/09/2021 at 22:34, Chris_Martin said:

when?

First half v Forest. Against Hull. Against Boro. First 10 minutes v Brum we carved them open twice. 
 

The football isn’t all horrendous it’s just the lack of cutting edge is compounded by stupid errors. 

On 10/09/2021 at 21:56, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

He's the manager,he spends all week training,coaching and then picking them to play.

They play to the system that he lays out and that's one that invites pressure and causes players to rooster up under that pressure.

Well let’s clear the players paid handsomely to play football of any responsibility then. 
 

I don’t buy ‘pressure’ for that first goal. He played the ball without looking. He wasn’t tackled. He just played a pass with no idea who was there. 

Rooneys got my sympathy here. 
 

Playin some good football and creating some chances but absolute dead heads making mistakes constantly are costing us.

he can’t be making that back pass for buchanan. He can’t be playing the pass for Lawrence or not being beat at his near post for Roos. 

I can handle Us losing because we’re not good enough but to be losing due to such a careless error is so so frustrating. 
 

Some good play in between gifting them a goal but Christ Buchanan you’ve got to look before you play it ?

Gone ahead in 4 league games out of 5 this season mind which was unheard of last year when we couldn’t hit a barn door with our nob in the lock. Progress. 
 

We’ll only start holding on a little more convincingly when we have some stronger options from the bench I think. Our starting 11 looked dead on their feet from about 70 onwards today. 

4 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Take your point buddy, but its one thing seeing sub-optimal performance, it's another stating he lacks talent and ability. In fairness, most on here do seem to see it but as has been stated countless times, the lad needs to start games, not be given the odd cameo and expected to play at the top of his game. As with any player, games will breed confidence and I think we're stating to see that latent ability coming to the fore now he is being given more game time.

Oh yeah I tend to think that those who write him off completely rather than see it as a poor performance are working in hyperboles