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2 hours ago, chezzyram said:

It was definitely a turning point when he came on to replace Dobra last night and his goal was class. They signed him from Macclesfield so there are some rough diamonds out there to be found

I watched him at Macclesfield last season and he was the best player on the pitch, by miles.  Surprised someone higher up didn't go in for him...

10 hours ago, Jubbs said:

If he did go to this game, I'd be interested if he's kept an eye on Conn-Clarke. Incredible player. Definitely one who's gonna go an EFL move very soon. 

Similarly with James Berry, he's destined for bigger & better things.  The lad can play

Revel Morrison is without a club.  Worth a punt til the end of the season...

22 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said:

Why are you using 'flattered' in the past tense? This is how many minutes he's played since coming back from injury, while probably still not playing to his full physical capacity given his history. Still plenty of time and definitely more to come from him. His first touch and instinctive finishing are what's stood out to me so far. 

There's nobody in our squad that would've been able to turn and shoot the way he did against Oxford.

1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said:

Id say his assessment on TJJ is pretty spot on.

Credit where credit is due for winning the header in the lead up to the first goal on Tuesday but other than that he was anonymous and the only other times you see him he is slipping over or being bullied by the opponents.

Might work in our favour him being off everyone's radar while he builds up match fitness ready for the run in.

If the guy was a Derby graduate rather than being from Arsenal though I think he'd be getting treated much more harshly.

Let's not forget that he isn't a No 10, he's a main striker or wide forward.  Until he has a good run of games in those positions we shouldn't be writing off just yet.  The one change I was hoping Warne would make the other night was swapping him and NML.  The praise he got at Ipswich shows he's capable at this level when fully fit.

On 15/01/2024 at 13:09, MaltRam said:

Go Pack Ho.

Never saw that coming. Worth a late night for.

Got to say I'm quite fearful of playing them on Saturday.  Jordan Love looks the real deal...

16 hours ago, Gringo said:

In the infamous words of the Liverpool legend that was Alan Hansen " you cannot win anything with kids", he was wrong when talking about Man united, but I believe his comment is correct when talking about the current Rams Team. Looking at last nights game our goal scorers were Barks aged 30, Collins aged 33, and Hourihane aged 30. In fact our top 5 scorers this season include those 3 plus Waggy aged 33 and NML aged 31.  The latest great new young sensation JJ flattered to deceive and is absolutely not an answer to lowering the average age of our goal scorers ( he may however win a prize for falling over dramatically), and I can see no youngsters in the squad who come close to the abilities of our OAP mainline scorers. I have been a quiet critic of Warne's managerial style, but I now accept and believe we need experienced journeymen to achieve promotion, we definitely will not get promotion playing kids.

I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make considering we have one of the oldest squads in the division.  

It's also good to see Rams fans fondness for writing off signings after the briefest of glimpses is alive and well 🙄

5 hours ago, ram59 said:

It wasn't 1 on 1 though, Elder was on his own waiting to pick up a clearance. At the moment they headed the ball clear, their goalscorer was the most forward player, just outside his own area. Our closest player was CH and didn't/couldn't keep up with him.

Credit where credit is due, the Burton players executed the perfect break from defence.

Elder could have been a bit closer, but the striker was running full tilt at him and on to a prefect pass in front of him.

 

I stand corrected on this point, I thought Hugill was further up when they broke

5 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

I recall it was mostly Thompson on for John-Jules to help with the control of the game in the middle of the pitch and to freshen our press. Before and after their 2nd, a few wanted Brown on for John-Jules. It wasn't working for him last night, so bringing on the only attacking player on our bench was a sensible suggestion- 5 goals today for the U21s shows he's hungry for goals with a point to prove.

If it ain’t broke, which at that point it wasn’t, why fix it?? What if Warne had made those changes and they still equalised, he’d be absolutely slated for going negative.  I get the feeling with some fans he’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t…

17 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

To many, a change at half time was needed. The calls for changes intensified shortly after our 2nd goal as we had no control of the game and were struggling to pass the ball at times. It shouldn't have taken 37 minutes and 2 goals conceded to realise a change was required.

Considering we were 2 goals to the good, and very rarely being threatened.  What changes were people demanding?? 

13 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Most teams send both CBs up for corners. Usually, a couple of the smaller/quicker players hang back on the half way line (typically the full backs)

Exactly a couple, not 1 on 1.  That's school boy basics...

9 minutes ago, trappatoni said:

People saying NML lost the ball - it's a blatant foul he get's pushed and the guy kicks through his legs.  Now unless we are telling players to never stay on the ball under pressure how is he at fault? 

Seddon is about 10 stone wet through, there's no way he should be out muscling NML like he did.  People can't pull Elder apart for his error and not appoint some blame for their first at Nat's door.  It was sloppy.

49 minutes ago, On the Ram Page said:

Possibly unlike anyone else, I have watched the whole match again today, with all the negative comments made last night ringing in my ears. What a load of tosh some people talk.

For 53 minutes Burton hardly had a kick in our box, we were so dominant. Scored one very good goal from a good move down the wing (a Warne special). Probably should have scored again when Mendis-Lang got through. Scored a second very good goal, good cross from Elder, and then 2 good headers from Barks & Collins.

Cue 53mins, casual NML, whether foul or not, possibly didn’t engage the runner quickly enough, but what a strike for their 1st goal. Not the first time this season NML has lost the ball and given the opposition opportunities to attack, but on this occasion we paid the price. We continue to attack and look ok but then disaster with a simple counterattack, where Elder was left wanting (either through lack of concentration, a stumble or whatever). Despite what some people said on the Forum last night, he has had a pretty good game up until that moment - yes there was a misplaced pass in the 1st half (slightly also Hourahane’s fault), a sliced clearance straight up in the air - but apart from that good. (Wilson also sliced a clearance straight up in the air in the very last minute - no groans or comment). Despite what some say Sibley was not an improvement, apart from the main error.

Understanably, we lost a bit of confidence having thrown away 2 goals and they had a spell of possession for a while, but often because of our misplaced passes. To be honest they never looked like scoring again. Despite what every says about brave little Burton, ( and they did put in a mighty shift for their new manager), we definitely deserved to win the game more comfortably than we did.

Thank goodness the players stayed composed till the end and didn’t try to force things, as we have done recently. We could easily have won the game 5/6-2. I wish some of the posters on here had stayed as composed because reading some of the posts on here is embarrassing.

if you disagree with me, I suggest you re- watch the match again - it wasn’t a bad viewing.

It's always those with knee jerk reactions that are the loudest.  Up until the errors we were well in control and cruising.  It's alright folk moaning about Warne not reacting to their changes, but it's not like they stuck 5 up front, they simply changed a couple of players (and maybe) told those coming on to be a bit more positive.  It's not like they unlocked us with peak Barcelona tiki-taka either, they were gifted to them...

5 hours ago, Gabby'sThighs said:

Exactly. I thought Elder was okay overall, he put that lovely cross in, but the mistake was awful. He's rusty, and it's unfortunate that his slip directly led to a goal. It also goes to show that, for all we slag off the standard of League One, a fraction-of-a-second brain fart like Elder's can be ruthlessly punished.

Interestingly, I haven't seen Nelson get any flak for the first goal, when he sat off Seddon and allowed him to shoot. I think this is because Nelson has been consistently very good all season he gets leeway (I think I'm right in saying he's played every minute of every game so far...), whereas Elder has been injured and struggled to get going. We need Elder to get match-fit and have to accept some wobbles.

It's frustrating to see the same old niggly complaints on here when we should be excited about being 1 point off top!

4 hours ago, Ram-Alf said:

Elder has been out for some time, Patrice(Burton)made it hard for him, Their 2nd wasn't solely down to him...imo, He's left on his own while every one in chasing the 3rd goal, A cracking through ball a slight slip and the lads through on goal.

Just like JJ...Elder has to build up match fitness...It'll come with game time, But when Forsyth gets fit he's our number 3 👍

Same as you guys, I thought he had a solid game up until his mistake.  His cross for the 2nd was good and he put a good shift in considering it's his first league start for months.  Unfortunately it looks like he's going to be the new whipping boy until Collins hasn't scored for a few games.  I thought NML was equally as culpable for their first goal, letting Seddon muscle him off the ball instead of just giving it back to a defender was pretty crap play.  It's also worth mentioning that Elder was left in the lurch by the rest of the team going absolutely gung-ho in the build up to the 2nd.  I suspect everyone was a little too eager to get the 2 goal advantage back because there was no need for both our CBs to go marauding up field like they did...

One piece of advice me & Mrs Ramsbottom found out too late was that you shouldn’t talk to the sprog during a night feed/nappy change as they think it’s play time, and won’t want to go back to sleep.  Babies have to learn how to sleep properly and any stimulation won’t help matters, so don’t make a lot of eye contact, and keep your trap shut.  
 

I guess winning with 10 ain’t for everyone… 

6 hours ago, Steve How Hard? said:

Someone alluded to this in last nights match thread and I think they're spot on. It's no coincidence that his passing has coincided with the unbeaten run we're on.

He's definitely having some influence from above. I wouldn't be surprised if he's convinced the good Lord to allow him to paint the pearly gates black and white. Keep up the good work B4. 

Of course, as the initial poster said, @B4’s Sister starting the match day threads is also having a big influence too. 

So if you're reading this B4, stop with the soddin penalties already!!!

20 hours ago, Gaspode said:

It would appear he's decided that he no longer wants to work in football - or else he's having some sort of very public breakdown and needs help

Perhaps his Mrs has left him and he's suffering from the Lawrence Fox effect...

2 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said:

This in spades. Many folk have such a fundamental misunderstanding of how to achieve success in football - it is all about thinking smart. Proper structure behind the scenes (so not dependant on one manager), an elite academy, hiring & firing in line with agreed values and style of preferred football & of course, savvy recruitment. Money helps but is not the dominant criteria & the idea we'd want a fan to sell us to a 'benevolent' billionaire who will of course have our best interests at heart, is naive in the extreme.

A club the size of Derby is perfectly capable of being a competitive side in the division above whilst operating sustainably - we will be top 5 in terms of crowd numbers & commercial revenue and only dwarfed income-wise by sides recently relegated from the Prem. From then on, it is a case of slowly building the squad for a Prem promotion push - buying cheap & selling expensive and developing own talent. This is not a short term fix though & I fear that is the crux of the OP's post.

Recruitment is key.  Some of the best players we've had in the past 10 years cost us peanuts.

Martin, Forsyth, Bryson, Davies, Morrison, Byrne, Bird, Cashin, Sibley, Knight were brought in, or developed for less that it cost us to buy Nick Blackman...

27 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

Perhaps. In which case, no harm done  
 

And interesting to note how many think it’s a $hit idea 

I'm entirely for finding other investors to bring into club as long as - 

- They have the best interests of the club in mind

- Still run the club in a sensible and sustainable way

I for one wouldn't want to go back to Uncle Mel's way of ludicrous spending, but I'm not a fan of the supposed penny pinching either.  I'd rather we had a middle ground where we use whatever funds we have wisely instead of spunking £4m + wages on the likes of Jacob 'Smiler' Butterfield

On 06/12/2023 at 00:39, Bris Vegas said:

Since the e-vapers went trick or treating at David’s house we have only played 3 league games.

3 league games in five and a half weeks.

The international break, League Cup, FA Cup lower rounds and the Pizza Cup have seriously disrupted the only competition that matters.

Now we can fully focus on league football again the excitement can resume.

Derby won’t lose another game from now until March when we will be sitting in the top two.

Heard it here first.

Hi B4, it's good to see your soul can inhabit even our most cynical of users.  Keep up the good posthumous work

I really don't think Mr Clowes needs you to suggest this course of action to him.  I'd hazard a guess it's been in his thoughts since he signed on the dotted line to become our owner...

This is unbelievably sad news.  As everyone else has echoed already, my thoughts are with his loved ones in such a tragic time. 
 

As much as I occasionally took the mick out the lad (his staunch defence of Callum Ball was never not funny), his unwavering passion & support for the club was inspirational 

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.

As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

Just shows that he's not one of these managers who actually gather information on their opponents, otherwise he'd know that if anyones going to be on the wrong end of a diabolical refereeing decision it's us...  Fat, gobby Bamford!!!