Bris Vegas Posted Tuesday at 21:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:00 1 minute ago, ariotofmyown said: Beat Germany in last Euros. We beat the worst Germany side in 2 decades at Wembley. The same Germany that Mexico and South Korea beat in 2018. They weren’t a top 10 side in the world at the time. Even Mexico were better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted Tuesday at 21:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:02 (edited) If that performance was in the first two games you'd probably be quite happy with that. (As a starter) It's the other two stinkers that make it look worse. And should we go out in the last 16 then the whole tournament will look like a summer holiday piss up. Things did pick up having players who stretch the game. You just don't really get the feeling that it will be a thing going forward. Mainoo surely grabbed his spot at least? Edited Tuesday at 21:03 by Alph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted Tuesday at 21:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:03 Just now, StaffsRam said: One win between all the teams in this group. What a w**k group. Definitely. If it went back to the old format of 2 go through and 2 go out, Slovenia would have had to commit bodies forward and made the game more interesting. But because they knew a draw would be enough, they sat back in and did nothing for the majority of the game. This format was rubbish in 2021 and it's still rubbish now. There's no way a team should be playing for a draw on the final game in a group stage to progress in the tournament. StaffsRam, angieram and RadioactiveWaste 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted Tuesday at 21:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:03 22 minutes ago, Gaspode said: Palmer has livened things up a bit - but why did Southgate have to wait so long to make the positive change? 😁 it's tournament football at it's best for Southgate, He's done what he set out to do...win the division, My concern is a lack of chances/goals and that's including the Iceland a friendly, We lack a Pirlo that can unlock a stubborn Slovenia, This lot can play better if given some freedom...like attack the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted Tuesday at 21:05 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:05 6 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: I do. England haven’t beaten a top 8 team on foreign soil in my lifetime. Every time (in my lifetime) we have played a Belgium, Brazil, Italy, Germany, Portugal or France in knockout competition on foreign soil we have lost. How old are you? ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted Tuesday at 21:05 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:05 With the current results it looks like England are on to play Spain in the 1/4 final. Spain are a top 8 side. So if we beat them, regardless of how we do it, Southgate and the England team should be applauded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted Tuesday at 21:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:06 Just now, G STAR RAM said: How old are you? Born in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted Tuesday at 21:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:06 Jeez, that was like pulling teeth. How he plays some of the most attacking footballers in the country then coaches them to play sideways and back, and to not run forward is beyond me. Bellingham too busy playing against his Ego. Kane so slow. Mainoo tried but zero runners. Palmer immediately made a difference and Gordon with his first touch looked to, shock, horror go forward. Sure he'll be taken aside and quietly asked what the hell was he thinking. Dull, dull, dull. Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted Tuesday at 21:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:10 If Southgate doesn't start Palmer in the next game, he should be sectioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted Tuesday at 21:11 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:11 (edited) Top of the group... Let them wipe the slate clean and move on. Booing your own team at a tournament is ridiculous imo. Horrible performances but no harm done let's just hope they pull it together sharpish they've got the talent. Edited Tuesday at 21:11 by alexxxxx Rammy03, RadioactiveWaste and eddielewis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted Tuesday at 21:11 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:11 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: With the current results it looks like England are on to play Spain in the 1/4 final. Spain are a top 8 side. So if we beat them, regardless of how we do it, Southgate and the England team should be applauded. Think we play Italy in the QF by the looks of it. Spain are on the other side of the draw aren't they? Either that or the BBC fixtures tracker makes as much sense as Gareth's tactics. I might fancy us against Italy, but no chance in hell this side beats Spain. Edited Tuesday at 21:14 by StaffsRam ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted Tuesday at 21:12 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:12 Perhaps it's the format of the early stages of the tournament which encourages such sterile, turgid, safety-first anti-football. 24 teams whittled down to 16 after the group stages means that' in 4 out of 6 cases, third place is 'good enough'. Just 1 positive result out of 6 in England's group - this is becoming the norm in these top-heavy, bloated tournaments. ariotofmyown, SSD, Ram-Alf and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted Tuesday at 21:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:13 4 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: We beat the worst Germany side in 2 decades at Wembley. The same Germany that Mexico and South Korea beat in 2018. They weren’t a top 10 side in the world at the time. Even Mexico were better. Apologies for not realising that your top 8 changed in each tournament to fit your narrative. Even though you name checked Germany in another response, but added a different condition there about home soil. So to sum up, we haven't beaten a top 8 (going into that tournament based on your ratings) side OR one on the traditional top 8 on foreign soil. In a knockout match. In your lifetime. That is probably because, our players were vastly overated for years by a moronic fanbase and media. Then in Southgate's time we a) didn't play any in 2018 as lost to Croatia in Semis b) only played Italy in 21, and lost on pens c) Lost in a very close match to France with a Kane pen miss d) haven't played anyone yet in knockouts and if we do beat Italy or Belguim, you'll then say they aren't top 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted Tuesday at 21:15 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:15 4 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: If Southgate doesn't start Palmer in the next game, he should be sectioned. To take Palmer and Bowen when the plan was for Palmer to be sat on the bench anyway was just absurd. There's no need for Bowen in that case. Take Grealish or Rashford instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted Tuesday at 21:18 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:18 It's a mess really. All them attacking options & Southgate doesn't know what to do with them. He wastes a place to fit shaw in who can't be arsed to play all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted Tuesday at 21:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:21 36 minutes ago, R@M said: “Less goals scored in this group than by Germany in one match” I rename this the “Group of (bored to) Death” R@M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted Tuesday at 21:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:21 His interview has riled me even more, delusional stubborn dinosaur of a man. He thought we played well and should take our chances am I living in a parallel universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted Tuesday at 21:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:22 5 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: To take Palmer and Bowen when the plan was for Palmer to be sat on the bench anyway was just absurd. There's no need for Bowen in that case. Take Grealish or Rashford instead. All that good work and then you totally undo it all. DarkFruitsRam7, Grumpy Git and Grimbeard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted Tuesday at 21:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:25 Bellingham should be dropped next game. TomTom92, BucksRam and Mr. P 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted Tuesday at 21:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:26 3 minutes ago, YouRams said: His interview has riled me even more, delusional stubborn dinosaur of a man. He thought we played well and should take our chances am I living in a parallel universe? I think this is why watching England in a group of people is always a terrible experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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