Paul Warne

[Tamworthram]

2 hours ago, Andicis said:

I actually agree with that, however I don't believe in retrospectively claiming he did a bad job at Derby based on him being a poor manager elsewhere (not what you did, but others).

No I agree and get your point. 

[Mick Brolly]

1 hour ago, Chris_Martin said:

What!?

Cant believe I actually have to explain this, but his time at Birmingham has nothing to do with his time at derby

But Warnes time at Rotherham and Roseniors time at Hull do 

Edited February 29 by Mick Brolly

[Mick Brolly]

17 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

I agree. It also makes it harder to 'enjoy' him being our manager, for some anyway. Whatever was thought of Roseniors football style I think you could be sure he wanted to be here and for the Club to achieve things with him.

Or maybe he didn't want to be here 

[MackworthRamIsGod]

1 hour ago, Jram said:

With the lack of rationality in the face of defeat on this thread, it makes me wonder how some people function in their day to day lives. 

It's based on what has been served up all season, not a knee jerk reaction. I'm finding this constant defending of what is poor football, poor tactics, poor recruitment, poor game management quite tiresome to be honest. It's like some people are being positive for positives sake. I'm guessing these people don't attend the games or don't even watch them? They just look at the league table and think 'ooo that looks nice'.

I'm there every home game (never boo and never will), but I see what is being served up and it is tripe. 

Even his bobble hat is crap now.

[YouRams]

Naughty from the social media team posting the corner flag today, thought he was gone.

[Mick Brolly]

4 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

It's based on what has been served up all season, not a knee jerk reaction. I'm finding this constant defending of what is poor football, poor tactics, poor recruitment, poor game management quite tiresome to be honest. It's like some people are being positive for positives sake. I'm guessing these people don't attend the games or don't even watch them? They just look at the league table and think 'ooo that looks nice'.

I'm there every home game (never boo and never will), but I see what is being served up and it is tripe. 

Even his bobble hat is crap now.

Likewise some people are just being negative for negatives sake

[Gerry Daly]

36 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said:

How have you come to this conclusion? From what I've perceived, I believe the exact opposite to be true- Warne is often vocal about what he wants ie. a striker in January. When that's not delivered, how are you coming to the conclusion that he's ''completely responsible'' for our recruitment- surely that proves the exact opposite?

I agree he’s not completely responsible for players chosen being got ‘into the building’ from the point of view of agreeing contracts and so on, but I think the evidence suggests that who we choose to go for is completely down to him. He wanted a striker in January you say. OK so who did we chase for most of the window to the apparent exclusion of all others? That’s right, his ex player ‘Smudge’. Then when it became clear we weren’t getting him we made a desperate last minute move for Gregory. The whole thing was an absolute shambles

[Mucker1884]

5 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

... I'm finding this constant defending of what is poor football, poor tactics, poor recruitment, poor game management quite tiresome to be honest. It's like some people are being positive for positives sake...

 

Whereas the constant jibes are an absolute breath of fresh air!  🙄

Perhaps some folk are built differently to others?  Whilst some seem to thrive on negative rants, others may wish to ignore them... or dare I say, even counteract them with positivity.

There are two sides to this fence, and for the most part, each side see the other as tiresome.

[Ghost of Clough]

6 minutes ago, YouRams said:

Naughty from the social media team posting the corner flag today, thought he was gone.

Why would he get sacked at this point? He'll get this season at least, unlesswe go on something like a 5 game losing streak. Even then, he'd probably be given time to turn results round in time for the playoffs.

[Archied]

1 hour ago, Chris_Martin said:

What!?

Cant believe I actually have to explain this, but his time at Birmingham has nothing to do with his time at derby

😂😂😂😂😂, does that apply to warnes time at Rotherham or liams time at hull ,,, or anybody you may approve of bringing in ,

it a bit like saying your posting numbers when derby are winning has nothing to do with when derby are losing

[Comrade 86]

18 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

It's like some people are being positive for positives sake.

Yeah, I'm always astounded to find people being supportive on a supporter's forum. 

Psychopaths! 

[YorkshireRam]

14 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

It's based on what has been served up all season, not a knee jerk reaction. I'm finding this constant defending of what is poor football, poor tactics, poor recruitment, poor game management quite tiresome to be honest. It's like some people are being positive for positives sake. I'm guessing these people don't attend the games or don't even watch them? They just look at the league table and think 'ooo that looks nice'.

I'm there every home game (never boo and never will), but I see what is being served up and it is tripe. 

Even his bobble hat is crap now.

You're totally right, 2nd looks horrible now I think about it. God forbid we finish the season in this position! 😂

I like that you wanted to try and insinuate we should be more nuanced than simply observing and drawing conclusions from league position, only to then finish your comment with a personal insult for seemingly no reason haha. 

[YorkshireRam]

10 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said:

I agree he’s not completely responsible for players chosen being got ‘into the building’ from the point of view of agreeing contracts and so on, but I think the evidence suggests that who we choose to go for is completely down to him. He wanted a striker in January you say. OK so who did we chase for most of the window to the apparent exclusion of all others? That’s right, his ex player ‘Smudge’. Then when it became clear we weren’t getting him we made a desperate last minute move for Gregory. The whole thing was an absolute shambles

In which case he's also solely the reason we've signed Nelson, Nyambe, Adams, yes?

I've not seen many comments crediting him personally for their success this season. Just seems like a desperate stretch to hold what is clearly a complex process that involves multiple parties and use it as a stick to bash Warne with. 

[Mucker1884]

15 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Why would he get sacked at this point? 

To be fair, it could be for non-footballing reasons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Ah Paul... Yes, do come in... take a seat... Now... You come in to work every day, to take charge of training and coaching of our footballers... and yet here we are, 18 months down the line, and they still aren't playing football.  GET OUT"!

 

*1  It's a joke.
*2  Lighten up, people.
*3  Non-footballing reasons... get it?
*4  Oh, forget it!
*5  etc...

[Inverurie Ram]

I thought we played well in the first half of the Charlton game and deserved our lead which I thought we gave away in the second half through two avoidable errors that came from the build up of not carrying out the basics of the game, passing, composure and decision making which all deteriorated throughout the second half and became frustrating to all of us, players, coaches, chairman, staff, supporters etc. Players becoming sloppy and repeating the same things that gave the ball away and were not benefiting the team.

I’ve mentioned this in other match threads. How many times does NML want to try and pass (nutmeg) a ball through an opposing player when numerous opportunities are given to him to pass the ball earlier, and to a team mate, along the ground, with a clean pass, not bobbling and bouncing, all ending up with the same result every time, possession lost, his team on the back foot and players out of position and NML no longer in possession.
 

Why does MB over play it, try to play a pass whilst looking in the opposite direction to the man he’s passing too, trying to kid on his opposing player, and then the ball goes behind his team mate and a real good attacking opportunity is wasted. These are a couple of examples of many others that if simplified with effective passing and keeping possession effectively and accurately, well timed passes, like what EC does very regularly and if carried out by all eleven players, are the many small margins that can make the difference in fixtures with positive results.

We won 1-0 away at Charlton with a goal from NML with a good pass from MB and our basics were good that day. And we beat Barnsley 3-0 at home with 2 goals from JC and CF, two players currently missing through injury.

We are not getting beaten by loads currently, it really is small margins, and errors at the moment, that all people make in life. I don’t think formations play much into it, when players are not playing to their full potential and doing the basics to their full potential. Football players can play all over the pitch and should be thankful for the wonderful position and lifestyle they have and should give their all, when out on the pitch.

I do wonder how some folk on here would deal with their loved ones, their family members, when their family members make errors in life, do we stick loyal knowing that are family are good people, do we support them, be there for them, knowing certain set backs can make all of us stronger, do we learn together how to deal with certain situations, stick by each other, offer support, listen and help, watch out for them, and move on together, learning together and hopefully benefiting all involved.

A couple of bad results, 0 points, that could have been 1, 2, 3, 4 or 6 points. Time to move on together, regroup and support one another. Paul Warne and all the staff at the club will be learning together to move on and searching for improved performances and results going forwards, we can help by supporting them.
 

Up The Rams 🐏

[angieram]

58 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said:

I agree he’s not completely responsible for players chosen being got ‘into the building’ from the point of view of agreeing contracts and so on, but I think the evidence suggests that who we choose to go for is completely down to him. He wanted a striker in January you say. OK so who did we chase for most of the window to the apparent exclusion of all others? That’s right, his ex player ‘Smudge’. Then when it became clear we weren’t getting him we made a desperate last minute move for Gregory. The whole thing was an absolute shambles

Neither of those statements are true, though. 

We were after the young Blackburn striker and/or two Premier League youngsters. 

We had made an initial enquiry about Smith but he was a ridiculous price so we moved on quickly. 

Gregory was offered to us, not the other way round. 

[Gerry Daly]

OK lets see how we feel a bit further down the line  

Edited February 29 by Gerry Daly

[Blondest Goat]

1 hour ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

It's based on what has been served up all season, not a knee jerk reaction. I'm finding this constant defending of what is poor football, poor tactics, poor recruitment, poor game management quite tiresome to be honest. It's like some people are being positive for positives sake. I'm guessing these people don't attend the games or don't even watch them? They just look at the league table and think 'ooo that looks nice'.

I'm there every home game (never boo and never will), but I see what is being served up and it is tripe. 

Even his bobble hat is crap now.

Think you just have to accept some people like kick and rush football.  Same ones that defend Warne are the ones that droned on about sideways passing under Rosenior and Cocu.

[TheRamOfSwad]

2 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

This is why I suspect he doesn't really 'enjoy' being Derby manager. More pressure, more expectations, less patience. Comes with the territory of managing a good sized club. His whole personality and setup just seems geared towards a club punching above it's weight, not a club expecting more than it currently has.

I think our fanbases vision on how we like to see our football still comes from (a little loosely) Brian Clough and the legacy he left and ultimately we still hold those values no matter what league we are in 

Keep it on the floor, Not cheating, Winners mentality, buying into hid footballing philosophy etc etc 

Crazy how his legacy still leaves a mark on the club and the supporters because we have seen how it "could be" why would we want anything else 

I think Brian was definitely in the camp of "work smarter, not harder" and maybe that's why we as derby fans have not taken to Warne very well 

Probably more reminiscent of a dirty Leeds Don Revie team, is more the model of Paul's ideal team, big brute kicking people off the ball and grinding out wins

🐏

Edited February 29 by TheRamOfSwad

[Jram]

1 hour ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

It's based on what has been served up all season, not a knee jerk reaction. I'm finding this constant defending of what is poor football, poor tactics, poor recruitment, poor game management quite tiresome to be honest. It's like some people are being positive for positives sake. I'm guessing these people don't attend the games or don't even watch them? They just look at the league table and think 'ooo that looks nice'.

I'm there every home game (never boo and never will), but I see what is being served up and it is tripe. 

Even his bobble hat is crap now.

It’s difficult because it’s tempting to lump all the people commenting negatively about Warne into one group which is perhaps unfair.

However, in general it strikes me that everyone comes out so angry and negative when we lose and/or play badly and the amount cognitive bias is insane. We haven’t played that badly in that many games and we have won a number of games quite convincingly this season. 
 

However, it is League 1. The pitches are bad, the players are quite bad (even the better players) and the tactics of a lot of teams are frequently to try and destroy football rather than create nice football. 
 

We have been unable to recruit a replacement for Collins (Gayle hasn’t really had a go yet though) so inevitably that will have an impact. Personally I think we’ve got away with not signing another centre back as well. 
 

From where im standing it seems that, if people took a minute to be remotely rational, they’d realise Warne is doing quite a good job. Not just in terms of league position but even in some performances and the recruitment has been pretty good given the constant contraints. 
 

Of course I have criticisms. The main one is the lack of academy minutes but I’ll give him the benefit this season as the current generation was gutted during admin so that may change in coming years.