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Can we finally admit get it wide/cross it in works in League One?


RamLad1884

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Says it in the title really, we’ve become somewhat specialists at ‘Warneball’ and the art of putting the ball in the dangerous areas and it seems to work at this level. 
 

Something must be working if we get the likes of Wilson and Thompson getting on the end of these crosses despite their diminutive heights.
 

 

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I’m not sure about that, last night for example we had 19 corners and barely won a header from them. Don’t think we get the striker involved in the game enough either.
 

Wigan first half is how I want us to play football, was moving the ball quickly, movement off the ball and creating chances.

Is a great run but don’t think we’ve cracked it by any means, was a similar vibe around the club this time last year and that unravelled.

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The issue was never crossing. Crossing can work.

The issue was the lack of plan B. Some teams have just stuck two banks of six foot tall lumps behind the ball, who can just head and kick it away all day. We've struggled to break them down.

The problem with those games was that we didn't seem to have any other ideas. The Lincoln cup game seemed to be the turning point, where we remembered we can actually play through the middle if needed.

Football isn't a "one tactic fits all" affair, teams need to actively problem solve to get goals.

That's changing for the better now. Credit to the coaching and playing staff.

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Banging in crosses and corners against a keeper who was terrified under the high ball was absolutely the right tactic and it eventually paid off because we simply wore them out until they were all over the place defensively. 

You can pass a team into submission, but it's a lot harder to do at this level than blitzing them. If we can eventually do both, we will be some amazing team.

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2 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Crosses into the box don't have to necessarily be high. It's a fact that at any level balls into the box from wide areas are very dangerous. Not all about heading. 

That's why I like Ward. His knee-height whipped in crosses are really dangerous.

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1 hour ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Crosses into the box don't have to necessarily be high. It's a fact that at any level balls into the box from wide areas are very dangerous. Not all about heading. 

Correct. Someone like Poom would have collected the crosses for our second and third goals 

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How we are playing is very similar to how Burnley have had success in recent years. Direct football that gets results. The problem with the whole of football is that there is a snobbery to certain teams playing style. Teams like Luton, Burnley, and Sheff Utd have managed to get to the prem by perfecting quick direct play. It seems that we are in the same mould under Warne. 

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22 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said:

How we are playing is very similar to how Burnley have had success in recent years. Direct football that gets results. The problem with the whole of football is that there is a snobbery to certain teams playing style. Teams like Luton, Burnley, and Sheff Utd have managed to get to the prem by perfecting quick direct play. It seems that we are in the same mould under Warne. 

Not exactly taking the Prem by storm. Not to do with snobbery, perhaps to do with effectiveness?

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1 hour ago, valakari said:

Absolutely Mad, Collins doesn't quite have their effectiveness!

hopefullywe can address that in jan,collins is a grafter,and fine in open space,but very seldom wins any battles with defenders either in the air,or on the floor.a taller,pacey striker is a must

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Our delivery has improved dramatically in the last 10 games or so, before that we were aimlessly slinging crosses in.

Now the quality has improved, people are slowly starting to realise we need a striker who knows how to be in the right place at the right time. To often we deliver a good cross into a dangerous area and no one is anywhere near it. A winger with a eye for goal would also help.

If we can get that sort of player in, then we can really push on and start looking at being a leading contender for the autos. 

We’ve been able to win games whilst wasting a number of good opportunities so far, but we won’t be able to do that all season, without tripping ourselves up.

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It's part of the toolkit for every team, some do it more, some do it less.

It's just limiting to use it as your main attacking tool, however, if you're good at it, you can get some joy, especially in league 1. It's if it's your only ploy that things can get sticky as all the other teams know it and you no longer have to be good, you have to be absolutly elite at it for it to succeed as your offense.

All things in moderation.....

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3 hours ago, oodledoodle said:

That's why I like Ward. His knee-height whipped in crosses are really dangerous.

wards quality of delivery compared to wilson is like night and day. wilson is great at taking players on, but his lack of quality last night really showed. we pretty much had ball in their half all second half, how many goodballs, or clear chances for a shot on goal were created. not much is the answer.

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4 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Crosses into the box don't have to necessarily be high. It's a fact that at any level balls into the box from wide areas are very dangerous. Not all about heading. 

We barely ever hit it hard and low i agree with you but how many times do we achually do this? 

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