RamLad1884 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Says it in the title really, we’ve become somewhat specialists at ‘Warneball’ and the art of putting the ball in the dangerous areas and it seems to work at this level. Something must be working if we get the likes of Wilson and Thompson getting on the end of these crosses despite their diminutive heights. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I’m not sure about that, last night for example we had 19 corners and barely won a header from them. Don’t think we get the striker involved in the game enough either. Wigan first half is how I want us to play football, was moving the ball quickly, movement off the ball and creating chances. Is a great run but don’t think we’ve cracked it by any means, was a similar vibe around the club this time last year and that unravelled. InstaRam, RoyMac5, HorsforthRam and 4 others 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Depends on the other team, some can cope better than others. Oxford, especially their young keeper were not comfortable with defending balls into the box. It's more about mixing it up and different angles of attack, don't become too predictable. ram59, LeedsCityRam, HorsforthRam and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 The issue was never crossing. Crossing can work. The issue was the lack of plan B. Some teams have just stuck two banks of six foot tall lumps behind the ball, who can just head and kick it away all day. We've struggled to break them down. The problem with those games was that we didn't seem to have any other ideas. The Lincoln cup game seemed to be the turning point, where we remembered we can actually play through the middle if needed. Football isn't a "one tactic fits all" affair, teams need to actively problem solve to get goals. That's changing for the better now. Credit to the coaching and playing staff. Mckram and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Banging in crosses and corners against a keeper who was terrified under the high ball was absolutely the right tactic and it eventually paid off because we simply wore them out until they were all over the place defensively. You can pass a team into submission, but it's a lot harder to do at this level than blitzing them. If we can eventually do both, we will be some amazing team. oodledoodle, angieram and Rammy03 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Crosses into the box don't have to necessarily be high. It's a fact that at any level balls into the box from wide areas are very dangerous. Not all about heading. angieram, Crewton and oodledoodle 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Crosses into the box don't have to necessarily be high. It's a fact that at any level balls into the box from wide areas are very dangerous. Not all about heading. That's why I like Ward. His knee-height whipped in crosses are really dangerous. Crewton, The Scarlet Pimpernel, RamLad1884 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I'd be even happier if we had a Steve Howard / Rob Hulse type #9. They'd have a field day. Crewton, TINMANTED and Ramarena 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valakari Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Absolutely Mad, Collins doesn't quite have their effectiveness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Crosses into the box don't have to necessarily be high. It's a fact that at any level balls into the box from wide areas are very dangerous. Not all about heading. Correct. Someone like Poom would have collected the crosses for our second and third goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 How we are playing is very similar to how Burnley have had success in recent years. Direct football that gets results. The problem with the whole of football is that there is a snobbery to certain teams playing style. Teams like Luton, Burnley, and Sheff Utd have managed to get to the prem by perfecting quick direct play. It seems that we are in the same mould under Warne. angieram and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said: How we are playing is very similar to how Burnley have had success in recent years. Direct football that gets results. The problem with the whole of football is that there is a snobbery to certain teams playing style. Teams like Luton, Burnley, and Sheff Utd have managed to get to the prem by perfecting quick direct play. It seems that we are in the same mould under Warne. Not exactly taking the Prem by storm. Not to do with snobbery, perhaps to do with effectiveness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I dont think its simply Crosses that work but getting the ball into the penalty area quickly, before the opposition have time to organise themselves, is always a good strategy. Another good strategy is having a player in the box, ready to put the ball in the net, when the ball is delivered into the penalty area. 😄 angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINMANTED Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, valakari said: Absolutely Mad, Collins doesn't quite have their effectiveness! hopefullywe can address that in jan,collins is a grafter,and fine in open space,but very seldom wins any battles with defenders either in the air,or on the floor.a taller,pacey striker is a must Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Not exactly taking the Prem by storm. Not to do with snobbery, perhaps to do with effectiveness? Quite right. It's a functional style of football that will get you only so far. The Billy Davies Derby side being another example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Our delivery has improved dramatically in the last 10 games or so, before that we were aimlessly slinging crosses in. Now the quality has improved, people are slowly starting to realise we need a striker who knows how to be in the right place at the right time. To often we deliver a good cross into a dangerous area and no one is anywhere near it. A winger with a eye for goal would also help. If we can get that sort of player in, then we can really push on and start looking at being a leading contender for the autos. We’ve been able to win games whilst wasting a number of good opportunities so far, but we won’t be able to do that all season, without tripping ourselves up. oodledoodle and Chester40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Not exactly taking the Prem by storm. Not to do with snobbery, perhaps to do with effectiveness? Yeah, and Leicester didn't win the Premier League with the lowest possession stats of any team in the history of stats..... "There's no such thing as tactics, young man...." RoyMac5 and Rammy03 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 It's part of the toolkit for every team, some do it more, some do it less. It's just limiting to use it as your main attacking tool, however, if you're good at it, you can get some joy, especially in league 1. It's if it's your only ploy that things can get sticky as all the other teams know it and you no longer have to be good, you have to be absolutly elite at it for it to succeed as your offense. All things in moderation..... May Contain Nuts and Elwood P Dowd 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 hours ago, oodledoodle said: That's why I like Ward. His knee-height whipped in crosses are really dangerous. wards quality of delivery compared to wilson is like night and day. wilson is great at taking players on, but his lack of quality last night really showed. we pretty much had ball in their half all second half, how many goodballs, or clear chances for a shot on goal were created. not much is the answer. oodledoodle and LeedsCityRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Crosses into the box don't have to necessarily be high. It's a fact that at any level balls into the box from wide areas are very dangerous. Not all about heading. We barely ever hit it hard and low i agree with you but how many times do we achually do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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