Crewton Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Which was needed why? In order to give the opposition something new to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 8 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: He’s picking the wrong team for a start. Barkhuizen and Fornah both need to start. Then he needs to set us up so we can actually play the ball through the midfield instead of putting everything long or wide. Hourihane sitting that deep makes no sense. Aerial crosses to Cashin, Nelson, whomever, at set pieces are fine. Crosses in open play are - with our front line - largely a waste of time. Amazing to hear our manager describe today’s result at home against Wycombe as ‘a well-earned point’. Can't agree with that at all, it's a system that has earned us 5 wins on the bounce, seen us gain ground on the top 2 and move up the league. The players didn't perform today, sometimes you can point the finger at the manager, but today imo wasn't one of them. He made changes early, he made changes throughout, it still didn't make a difference, sometimes the players hold the responsibility on what happens on the pitch. Taking his interview out of context once again is no surprise, his words "point when you're playing bad is OK" shows that he is honest in opinion. He also mentions to many times crosses were out into the empty box, so he recognises believe it or not where the problem was. Caerphilly Ram, angieram, kevinhectoring and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) Some say we are playing more through the middle now. From my view, it appears that we play across the middle of the pitch when it’s easy to do so. More often than not, when Hourihane is in the deep position of almost centre back. We rarely seem to have the ability to get if from the wing/wingback and back into the midfield. As soon as Ward ir Wilson turned back to our own goal, it seemed easy for Wycombe to press and defend and force the launch. The midfield space just appears to be ouccupied by Wycombe players and the ref with our two midfielders pushed right up. This was the same at Orient. We may have more possession in games but the turnover in the opposition half is so quick. It feels we aren’t used to/can’t/haven’t the right shape to maintain possession. When we were trying to see time out yesterday, we had a spell where we were keeping it until Nelson decided just to hoof it into a corner to no one. The midfield providing no options to come and collect (Wycombe weren’t pressing particularly). Wildsmith (who I feel adds to lack of intensity with his threats of playing it quickly to then going to calm down gestures) launches a poor kick at the end. Again, no one even attempting to come shorter to receive the ball to retain possession… Edited December 17, 2023 by HorsforthRam DiggerB and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: The results have been pretty decent but a lot of the performances bang average from what I have seen. Hopefully Warne will start learning pretty quickly what has worked and what doesn’t work and build from there. The January window is going to be very important, as is getting Thommo back fit. He will be like a new signing and the little terrier we have been missing in midfield 😊 Just an observation, PW has been here long enough to have learned what does and doesn't work, This team is misfiring and running on petrol with holes in it...init. I'm not to sure "Thommo" is in PWs plans in the starting line up, Having been forced to play him when the squad was paper-thin and playing well before his injury, Bird could be on his way as there's no sign of him signing a new contract, So PW will be looking to fill that role. HorsforthRam and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Premier ram and hintonsboots 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, HeyHudson said: The change? Presumably to push Wilson and Ward further up as wing backs. The tidy up? To make sure the 3 CBs were in their preferred positions. I don't agree with the change personally (I think we look all over the place when we play 3 at the back), but it seems pretty obvious what Warne was thinking. I think what Roy Mac was driving at was why not get it right in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Was very frustrated last night, particularly with the ref. But we didn’t have our best game and Wycombe came to stop the rhythm and disrupt us. Technically, her bookings were right, but her management of the game - which previously has been spot on - was poor. Sometimes a word would have sufficed and the fact that all the booking came so close together didn’t help. The Sibley and Collins one frustrate me. Sibley should know that kicking the ball away is a yellow card this season, we’re nearly halfway through now and that should be basic knowledge. I get Collins was frustrated but he ran from the middle of the pitch to have an argument he didn’t need to have. The trouble is, due to poor management of the game, the players played within themselves. They became too scared to make a tackle. And the inconsistency made it worse. She should have booked the Wycombe player in the first half after, rightly, playing advantage. Taylor should have been booked for ambling off the pitch. She walked 5 yards with him and he completely ignored her. I’m sure there are others but they’re 2 that spring to mind. r_wilcockson, lrm14, AndyB and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Chester40 said: There was really minimal contact from the angle I saw, their player just made a meal of it. NML lunged so gave the opportunity to book him though. Hourihane was a clear yellow, Bird was ridiculous, it was like he pulled him several times to make sure he got the yellow. Collins was unlucky- quiet word with both would have sufficed. Sibley - I just didn't understand. Wycombe weren't trying to take a quick free kick, he wasn't slowing the game down. He could have lifted his leg and let the ball go past him and miles into touch the other side of the pitch, made no difference. Really didn't merit a yellow and set the tone. Some really soft decisions in general that mostly seemed to go against us. John Jules made a challenge at the back post that was penalised for absolutely nothing. Taylor was walking and she almost escorted him all the way off the pitch and it looked really awkward. Not seen a good enough angle of the penalty to know for sure, but it was soft and I think you probably seem them as 50-50 decisions. All told though. Poor performance that we need to rectify ASAP. There's refereeing by the book and there's refereeing by common sense, Just like all the different opinions on here goes to show that football is a sport that winds us all up gfs1ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said: I think what Roy Mac was driving at was why not get it right in the first place Eh? What team should he have picked after winning 5 games on the trot? Ramarena, Caerphilly Ram, Archied and 5 others 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: The lad that got brought down looked offside on the telly but I could not tell from the South stand . Was anyone smack in line and able to see the flick on from the free kick ? Oooo good call...you decide 🤷♂️ https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13032134/derby-1-1-wycombe-league-one-highlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Last Post said: Oooo good call...you decide 🤷♂️ https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13032134/derby-1-1-wycombe-league-one-highlights Played it back on YouTube a good few times at half speed, looks like Bradley was playing him on on the D. Ram-Alf and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Warnes comment in his interview on BBC before the game. Foot, shoot springs to mind. "I've said it all along that to get promoted you have to go on good runs and at the moment the lads are on a good run." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, HeyHudson said: The change? Presumably to push Wilson and Ward further up as wing backs. The tidy up? To make sure the 3 CBs were in their preferred positions. I don't agree with the change personally (I think we look all over the place when we play 3 at the back), but it seems pretty obvious what Warne was thinking. Yes, not the tidy up. We all knew it was going to happen, if not exactly when. Is there any 'thinking' in it, it seems to happen by rote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said: I think what Roy Mac was driving at was why not get it right in the first place I suppose, why not make the 'main' change after half-time. But no I meant why make the change at all, there was (unsurprisingly) no-one in the box to sling crosses over to. Why did we need the change that was made to wingbacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, Crewton said: Eh? What team should he have picked after winning 5 games on the trot? FFS I meant why make a tactical change then change it again 5 minutes later! RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, The Last Post said: Oooo good call...you decide 🤷♂️ https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13032134/derby-1-1-wycombe-league-one-highlights Unable to pause that without the screen fuzzing out. He was well off by the time he receives it (but that's irrelevant, obvs). As the header is flicked on? I'm gonna go with a fuzzy-but-confident... ON-SIDE! ...Have to say, their peno taker coped very well under pressure, what with our North Stand Massive doing their utmost to put him off from behind the net. Reminded me very much of Wilson at Elland Rd. (Obviously Leeds would have twirled more scarves.) 👀😉 HorsforthRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 22 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: We'll come on now, it's my birthday, we're on a crazy winning streak and Wycombe are on a crazy losing streak WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG? It was like the birthday gods said ... "Stive we're going to gift you 3 points from one of the worst games of football you've ever seen via an underwhelming scuffed bundled in goal that will be only our 2nd attempt on target.." And then laughed "Not really sucker! Have the point that turgid display of nothingness deserved!" Luckily the rest of my birthday was great 😂 Mucker1884, HorsforthRam, Archied and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 What puzzles me about yesterday is...we have 3 centre backs and Collins on the pitch and Bird is the one challenging the long free kick to the edge of the box. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, sage said: What puzzles me about yesterday is...we have 3 centre backs and Collins on the pitch and Bird is the one challenging the long free kick to the edge of the box. Thought they got caught out when watching it at the game, seemed to be an overload of Wycombe players, not watched it back though. Maybe it was them pushing everyone forward with last kicks of game, lack of focus, poor management, or credit to Wycombe is needed, not sure but I thought very poor defending all round. 1967Ram and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, The Last Post said: Just an observation, PW has been here long enough to have learned what does and doesn't work, This team is misfiring and running on petrol with holes in it...init. I'm not to sure "Thommo" is in PWs plans in the starting line up, Having been forced to play him when the squad was paper-thin and playing well before his injury, Bird could be on his way as there's no sign of him signing a new contract, So PW will be looking to fill that role. Warney doesn’t seem to learn though does he? Tactically he is left wanting at times. In my view once fully fit Thommo should play. He fills the void of energy and pace we currently lack in midfield. kevinhectoring, DiggerB, HeyHudson and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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