Match Thread: vs Bolton (A)

[Animal is a Ram]

Sparing a thought for Jake Rooney, looked like his year to kick on. That RB position looks cursed this season.

Any idea if we can/will appeal the Wildsmith red?

[estinnes]

Is there anywhere we can see the referees match report/definitely see why Wildsmith was sent off? 

The referee appears to wave advantage after the initial Wildsmith challenge - I think this was a foul as he went through the player to get the ball - but the player was going away from goal across the pitch and Sonny arguably would have covered so wouldn't be a straight red?

For the handball - from the other end of the ground the ball appeared to hit Wildsmith in the chest, the video on X shows this, so given the positioning of the ref, there's no way he could not see that.

[Caerphilly Ram]

2 hours ago, Animal is a Ram said:

Sparing a thought for Jake Rooney, looked like his year to kick on. That RB position looks cursed this season.

Any idea if we can/will appeal the Wildsmith red?

Looks like we have;

 

[DavesaRam]

Is Rick Parry still the EFL boss? I feel another strong letter is beckoning. Not that will be taken notice of. But you never know.

[duncanjwitham]

5 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

Looks like we have;

 

I think that makes it pretty conclusive that the red was for the handball, not the tackle.  The club will have seen the ref's match report and know exactly why he was sent off before they appeal it.

And I'm *fairly* sure that they can't go back and retrospectively change the red card to being for the tackle, if the ref didn't originally give it for that.

[Donegal Ram]

On 02/09/2023 at 16:22, 8Leeds said:

Watch the game but play tue radio derby commentary, it’s slightly better 👍

Is the commentary in sync with the tv. If so I will definitely be doing that

[Ghost of Clough]

3 minutes ago, Donegal Ram said:

Is the commentary in sync with the tv. If so I will definitely be doing that

It's much better when Owen is commentating. Unfortunately, he chose to play a bit of hockey in the US at the weekend instead.

[8Leeds]

34 minutes ago, Donegal Ram said:

Is the commentary in sync with the tv. If so I will definitely be doing that

There probably is a way to do it but for me the radio commentary is usual about 10 seconds ahead 

[Gritstone Ram]

So the refs thought process must have been:-

Play on Bolton might score.

Play on they are still in with a chance

Good grief that’s 3 chances wasted.

Do you think the keeper handled it outside the area?

He might have. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and send him off. No more triple saves from him.

[RoyMac5]

Apparently Ian Evatt is Paul Jewell reincarnated! 

 

[DCFC Kicks]

Can anyone tell me what position Mendez-Laing was playing this game? I've watched back the game and even before Rooney's injury and the red card he was often the furthest back player, even further back than the CBs.

[Chris_Martin]

13 minutes ago, DCFC Kicks said:

Can anyone tell me what position Mendez-Laing was playing this game? I've watched back the game and even before Rooney's injury and the red card he was often the furthest back player, even further back than the CBs.

when we had 11 men it was definetely RWB but after the sending off i'm not sure

[Caerphilly Ram]

[Millenniumram]

I’m sure we got an apology for the crap decision. But yet again it doesn’t help us with the dropped points that resulted from it….

The incompetence of officiating at this level is genuinely scary. If some of these guys can become qualified refs then I’m pretty sure most of us on this forum could do!

[Gritstone Ram]

9 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

So the ref cheated again and gave a decision against us based upon his imagination.

[angieram]

10 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

So, we get our goalie back, but not the potential to claim three points! 

 

[angieram]

The FA version:

 

[WestKentRam]

15 minutes ago, angieram said:

The FA version:

 

Interesting they have left it ambiguous.

So was it a handball or not? If not, then the ref and assistant obviously guessed or it was an optical illusion that the ball hit his hand that only video could clarify.

Or did the commission still think it was a handball, but not a goal scoring opportunity?

This sort of thing does cost teams promotion, as every season automatic or play off places are won or lost on margins of less than three points.

The game has gone on my Spreadsheet of Injustice to see how it 'evens itself out over the course of the season', that for us, strangely, never seems to be the case 🤬

[Curtains]

So the referee is a disgrace as I thought.  Total plank 

[DRBee]

On 04/09/2023 at 12:17, duncanjwitham said:

I think that makes it pretty conclusive that the red was for the handball, not the tackle.  The club will have seen the ref's match report and know exactly why he was sent off before they appeal it.

And I'm *fairly* sure that they can't go back and retrospectively change the red card to being for the tackle, if the ref didn't originally give it for that.

Not conclusive at all to judge by the FA statement