Cashin Snubbed in EFL young player awards

[Mucker1884]

8 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

Was it the EFLs fault that we had 28 shots on goal yesterday but only managed to score with one of them.

And the crap refereeing decisions (when they have nothing to do with providing the match officials)

Think not of those who appoint.  Rather consider those who distribute brown envelopes!  👀

[kevinhectoring]

love to see B4 nominated by the EFL as Supporter of the Year. That could be quite an acceptance speech 

[Grumpy Git]

Cashin’s own fault, he should have shaved more often. The EFL think he’s 29.

[Sparkle]

Depends who makes these lists up doesn’t it? 
Maybe it’s a few agents who do these things🤔

[Day]

Just going to leave these here.

 

[Ram-Alf]

12 hours ago, Wolfie20 said:

Considering the EFL are the governing body representing the 72 non-PL clubs, they have proved themselves to be an inept, weak, self-serving organisation who far too often have failed to provide sound guidance and support to their members when it has been needed. But corrupt and dishonest? Not in my opinion and the nonsensical chanting of f*** the EFL every time a refereeing decision goes against us just continues to cause further embarrassment to our Club - our owner is trying to repair our relationship with the EFL following the disastrous stewardship of Morris and must squirm in his seat everytime it happens.

 

Peter Ridsdale 

[Crewton]

There's a persistent few who think it's an EFL conspiracy. Most of those pointing it out however just think it's a ludicrous decision to ignore Cashin yet nominate a player who hasn't even played 1/4 of a season. It's not a conspiracy, it's just an erroneous decision.

[Foreveram]

1 minute ago, Crewton said:

There's a persistent few who think it's an EFL conspiracy. Most of those pointing it out however just think it's a ludicrous decision to ignore Cashin yet nominate a player who hasn't even played 1/4 of a season. It's not a conspiracy, it's just an erroneous decision.

Or both. 
I find it amusing that two threads are running simultaneously, one saying there’s no such thing as a conspiracy and the other about how we were cheated out of the European cup.

[Crewton]

1 minute ago, Foreveram said:

Or both. 
I find it amusing that two threads are running simultaneously, one saying there’s no such thing as a conspiracy and the other about how we were cheated out of the European cup.

There's certainly more reliable evidence come to light of the latter than the former.

[jimtastic56]

Don’t think Cashin will lose any sleep over a 3 tier award. He is a good tackler , can pass and is good in the air. He reminds me of Bradley Johnson. It’s his lack of speed that will hold him back. If a manager converts him to D Mid he could do better than mid Championship.

[Foreveram]

4 minutes ago, Crewton said:

There's certainly more reliable evidence come to light of the latter than the former.

But if one is possible, so is the other😉

[Crewton]

1 minute ago, Foreveram said:

But if one is possible, so is the other😉

Steady on 😂

[Guest]

I just put it down to the complete incompetence of an organisation that managed to scrap a completely unique identity as the first football league in the world, to localise it just to England (you could imagine how annoyed Cardiff and Swansea were) Most would consider being called THE Football League an enviable thing to have….

As far as the ref’s and officials are concerned, most of it is down to the fact that they just aren’t very good.  I also do wonder if there is great potential for them to be overly intimidated by the size and vocal nature of our support but in the reverse direction to demonstrate that they aren’t being influenced.  When you are usually reffing games in front of a few thousand and then suddenly 27,000 at pride park there has to be some effect.  And before anyone says something like “we must be quiet then” - don’t, that’s not what I am saying.

I think in the particular case of Saturday, as soon as the MK players realised that if you went down like a sack of spuds that he would stop the game then he lost control.  Despite this dubious second half display of the ref, we had done better with our chances on Saturday we would not have had such a disappointing result, we just weren’t good enough in front of goal.

Sorry B4 there is no conspiracy, and continued claims just makes us look silly IMHO.  I am sure Mr. Clowes is working feverishly in the background to repair relations with the league after the Morris days, and it needs to be done.  Continuing to be confrontational will serve no purpose.

Is is disappointing to not see Cashin nominated,  despite a wobble or two here and there, I think he has been great for us this season, and certainly a player with a bright future.

So incompetent, out of touch, and very much out of their depth - yes, in the background to secretly do Derby County or their players down - no

just my twopeneth worth of ramblings…

[MadAmster]

One of those sites that marks players out of 10 each and every game, has Cash as the 4th best player in the League. The 3 lads nominated by the EFL don't make the top 10...

[Ghost of Clough]

1 hour ago, Andrew1 said:

I just put it down to the complete incompetence of an organisation that managed to scrap a completely unique identity as the first football league in the world, to localise it just to England (you could imagine how annoyed Cardiff and Swansea were) Most would consider being called THE Football League an enviable thing to have….

As far as the ref’s and officials are concerned, most of it is down to the fact that they just aren’t very good.  I also do wonder if there is great potential for them to be overly intimidated by the size and vocal nature of our support but in the reverse direction to demonstrate that they aren’t being influenced.  When you are usually reffing games in front of a few thousand and then suddenly 27,000 at pride park there has to be some effect.  And before anyone says something like “we must be quiet then” - don’t, that’s not what I am saying.

I think in the particular case of Saturday, as soon as the MK players realised that if you went down like a sack of spuds that he would stop the game then he lost control.  Despite this dubious second half display of the ref, we had done better with our chances on Saturday we would not have had such a disappointing result, we just weren’t good enough in front of goal.

Sorry B4 there is no conspiracy, and continued claims just makes us look silly IMHO.  I am sure Mr. Clowes is working feverishly in the background to repair relations with the league after the Morris days, and it needs to be done.  Continuing to be confrontational will serve no purpose.

Is is disappointing to not see Cashin nominated,  despite a wobble or two here and there, I think he has been great for us this season, and certainly a player with a bright future.

So incompetent, out of touch, and very much out of their depth - yes, in the background to secretly do Derby County or their players down - no

just my twopeneth worth of ramblings…

The debateable decisions started under Cocu. I recall counting all of the penalty shouts we had dismissed, and we were in the 20s before I gave up and we still didn't have a single one. However, some very debatable penalties were given against us, including a very obvious dive by WBA under absolutely zero contact.

This just so happened to coincide with the start of Gibson's and the EFL's media campaign against us.

I stand by my view it's subconscious bias.

[B4ev6is]

5 hours ago, kevinhectoring said:

love to see B4 nominated by the EFL as Supporter of the Year. That could be quite an acceptance speech 

I would give back

I would say here I dont want it unless you live all resitractions.

[B4ev6is]

2 hours ago, Andrew1 said:

I just put it down to the complete incompetence of an organisation that managed to scrap a completely unique identity as the first football league in the world, to localise it just to England (you could imagine how annoyed Cardiff and Swansea were) Most would consider being called THE Football League an enviable thing to have….

As far as the ref’s and officials are concerned, most of it is down to the fact that they just aren’t very good.  I also do wonder if there is great potential for them to be overly intimidated by the size and vocal nature of our support but in the reverse direction to demonstrate that they aren’t being influenced.  When you are usually reffing games in front of a few thousand and then suddenly 27,000 at pride park there has to be some effect.  And before anyone says something like “we must be quiet then” - don’t, that’s not what I am saying.

I think in the particular case of Saturday, as soon as the MK players realised that if you went down like a sack of spuds that he would stop the game then he lost control.  Despite this dubious second half display of the ref, we had done better with our chances on Saturday we would not have had such a disappointing result, we just weren’t good enough in front of goal.

Sorry B4 there is no conspiracy, and continued claims just makes us look silly IMHO.  I am sure Mr. Clowes is working feverishly in the background to repair relations with the league after the Morris days, and it needs to be done.  Continuing to be confrontational will serve no purpose.

Is is disappointing to not see Cashin nominated,  despite a wobble or two here and there, I think he has been great for us this season, and certainly a player with a bright future.

So incompetent, out of touch, and very much out of their depth - yes, in the background to secretly do Derby County or their players down - no

just my twopeneth worth of ramblings…

Mmm of course there isn't 

Yes flaming well is they have it in for us.

[Comrade 86]

Not really sure how Cashin fails to make the shortlist. A tad off his game by his own high standards in recent weeks, but consistently the top performing young CB in the L1 for the balance of the season.

Fingers crossed for slightly less 'interest' in him from other clubs as a consequence. I wouldn't mind that at all.

[Red Ram]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

The debateable decisions started under Cocu. I recall counting all of the penalty shouts we had dismissed, and we were in the 20s before I gave up and we still didn't have a single one. However, some very debatable penalties were given against us, including a very obvious dive by WBA under absolutely zero contact.

This just so happened to coincide with the start of Gibson's and the EFL's media campaign against us.

I stand by my view it's subconscious bias.

Subconscious bias by whom? Referees who are governed by PGMOL and are not appointed by the EFL?

Edited April 12, 2023 by Red Ram

[Wolfie]

After falling foul of the Manager of the Month curse in a big way, I'd rather we remove ourselves from consideration for any future EFL awards.