beardyjim Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) World Cup 2022: Denmark to wear 'toned down' jerseys in protest at hosts Qatar - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63066393 Do we like this? I for one thinks it's fantastic but I'm a woke lefty guardian reading millenial liberal so would be intrigued to get all perspectives. Btw. Would love Hummel to be our kit manufacturer in the future. Those mid 90s international kits were brilliant. Edited September 28, 2022 by beardyjim Forgot to add the finer details EtoileSportiveDeDerby, I know nothing, IslandExile and 5 others 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Kits look fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Looks nice, as a statement gesture, it's a bit "meh" and hardly going to be fixing the problem. I'd have been more on board if they'd just said "this is our world cup kit, deal with it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 No. I think it's utterly vacuous. I appreciate the anger about the working conditions in Qatar, but if you genuinely feel that strongly and want to make a statement, don't go. Don't broadcast it. Don't watch it. I won't be watching a second, but I have 0 respect for footballers and football associations thinking they're making any kind of relevant statement with their toned down shirts and rainbow armbands. Foxy Ram, Ram-Alf, sheeponacid and 8 others 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, beardyjim said: World Cup 2022: Denmark to wear 'toned down' jerseys in protest at hosts Qatar - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63066393 Do we like this? I for one thinks it's fantastic but I'm a woke lefty guardian reading millenial liberal so would be intrigued to get all perspectives. Btw. Would love Hummel to be our kit manufacturer in the future. Those mid 90s international kits were brilliant. For me, the next World Cup will be kept 2026. Their move is alrightish, but not enough for my liking. Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Whats the point? They are still going to the tournament and they won't give a toss about human rights if their team does well in it. Qatar's human rights issues didn't appear just because they won the world cup. If you didn't care before then wearing a plain shirt with a few anti qatar slogans on it is not going to make you care any more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardyjim Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Anon said: No. I think it's utterly vacuous. I appreciate the anger about the working conditions in Qatar, but if you genuinely feel that strongly and want to make a statement, don't go. Don't broadcast it. Don't watch it. I won't be watching a second, but I have 0 respect for footballers and football associations thinking they're making any kind of relevant statement with their toned down shirts and rainbow armbands. It's a legitimate point and I'm sure many agree with you, as I actually do, but what are the individual FAs meant to do as an alternative? If they refuse to play they'll be banned from future tournaments and no doubt be sanctioned. I am in no way saying this is the answer, but surely it's a better step than nothing? I know nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, beardyjim said: World Cup 2022: Denmark to wear 'toned down' jerseys in protest at hosts Qatar - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63066393 Do we like this? I for one thinks it's fantastic but I'm a woke lefty guardian reading millenial liberal so would be intrigued to get all perspectives. Btw. Would love Hummel to be our kit manufacturer in the future. Those mid 90s international kits were brilliant. I think it's a load of old b*******. Feel that strongly, don't play. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 By participating The Danish FA have already condoned Qatar's abysmal human rights record just as all the other countries FA's have . Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, beardyjim said: It's a legitimate point and I'm sure many agree with you, as I actually do, but what are the individual FAs meant to do as an alternative? If they refuse to play they'll be banned from future tournaments and no doubt be sanctioned. I am in no way saying this is the answer, but surely it's a better step than nothing? That's a fair point, but would FIFA really sanction an FA for not attending? I'm not saying they wouldn't, but it sets quite an astonishing president that they believe they can literally force nations to attend tournaments. I would love to see FIFA's hand forced here, just to see what they'd actually do. Maybe Hummel and the various nations who are protesting do have genuine intentions. I fully admit that I'm approaching this from the most cynical angle possible. To me it seems that these organisations want to have their cake and eat it. To attend the tournament and get all the glory, marketing opportunities, and money that come with such a major event, and also get a positive PR boost from virtue signalling when they don't actually care about the issues they're protesting. Edited September 28, 2022 by Anon beardyjim and Rev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 At the end of the day, it's the job of governments and the politicians that run them to pull up Qatar, not football teams. If our elected leaders can't/won't take the moral high ground, why should we expect a group of young sportsmen to do so? cstand and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, Rev said: At the end of the day, it's the job of governments and the politicians that run them to pull up Qatar, not football teams. If our elected leaders can't/won't take the moral high ground, why should we expect a group of young sportsmen to do so? At the least the World Cup can and is shining a light on their horrible record. If they hadn’t had the World Cup, not half as many people would know or care. It would be great if the World Cup back fired on them, and all the teams protesting in this way made it so obvious there’s a problem there that even the biggest ostrich with their hand in the sand can’t ignore it, and the international community end up doing something about Qatar. Stive Pesley and beardyjim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I like the kit and the gesture is fine but it's only slightly more than doing absolutely nothing. Personally am not sure how FA's and players including our own can actually go to this world cup given all the gestures towards social justice they've made. It just shows it up for the performative farce it is. As soon as it would impact them in the slightest way the shoulder shrugging comes out and no stance is actually taken. Anon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 14 hours ago, beardyjim said: World Cup 2022: Denmark to wear 'toned down' jerseys in protest at hosts Qatar - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63066393 Do we like this? I for one thinks it's fantastic but I'm a woke lefty guardian reading millenial liberal so would be intrigued to get all perspectives. Btw. Would love Hummel to be our kit manufacturer in the future. Those mid 90s international kits were brilliant. They could boycott the World cup if they really meant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 15 hours ago, Anon said: No. I think it's utterly vacuous. I appreciate the anger about the working conditions in Qatar, but if you genuinely feel that strongly and want to make a statement, don't go. Don't broadcast it. Don't watch it. I won't be watching a second, but I have 0 respect for footballers and football associations thinking they're making any kind of relevant statement with their toned down shirts and rainbow armbands. Agree with this. Tick box exercise. "We stand with..." (We stand behind) empty words. Ewetube and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 "England's Football Association has backed calls for compensation to be awarded for "any injury or death related to any construction project" for the World Cup." going in hard!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Don't worry everyone, another couple weeks of Trussonomics and we won't be able to afford the aircraft fuel, which will provide us with the perfect cover for backing out.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11284625/Gary-Neville-work-beIN-SPORTS-World-Cup-insists-does-NOT-make-hypocrite.html One of my favourite people will be going to the world cup. I highlight this because it's the hypocrisy I really take issue with. It's ok to watch and enjoy this world cup. It's ok to profit from it. No one should spend their entire lives worrying about being 100% ethical with every single thing they buy or consume, it's impossible and exhausting. I hope this world cup is great. What I won't tolerate is a fatuous p**** like Neville still trying to take the moral high ground whilst also filling his pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Well that is something but it would have been better if all the countries had said we won't participate at all because Qatar is the way it is and FIFA is the way it is. In the end it's all about money not the sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 28/09/2022 at 19:05, Anon said: No. I think it's utterly vacuous. I appreciate the anger about the working conditions in Qatar, but if you genuinely feel that strongly and want to make a statement, don't go. Don't broadcast it. Don't watch it. I won't be watching a second, but I have 0 respect for footballers and football associations thinking they're making any kind of relevant statement with their toned down shirts and rainbow armbands. Man illustrates disdain for virtue signallers by signalling his own virtue. How cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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