David Graham Brown Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Ruud Aralliss said: To me, his hair is as red as my son’s skin is dark. When I hear ginger this ginger that, I hear/read this as racist ?♂️ Since when as hair colour been classed as a race? Indy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ruud Aralliss said: Would you been ok if he had a darker skin tone or had an Asian look and posters called him names because of this? I’m done It's all a matter of degree. Picking on someone for their hair colour is not racism whatever you say about genetics. David Graham Brown, Derbados and Indy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ruud Aralliss said: Would you been ok if he had a darker skin tone or had an Asian look and posters called him names because of this? I’m done Ruud.. you shouldn’t be “done” Engaging in reasoned discussion with reasonable people is a far more effective strategy when the desire is to defeat the more ugly elements. @i-Ram reached out, empathised but put some perspective in the discourse, could you maybe try and see that, instead of being “done” and putting up the shutters ? David Graham Brown, i-Ram and RoyMac5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Was there a game on today? ?♀️ Maharan, Dean (hick) Saunders, David Graham Brown and 9 others 3 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: It's all a matter of degree. Picking on someone for their hair colour is not racism whatever you say about genetics. Its just zenophobic. How in any logical world can it be ok to abuse someone for the colour of their hair but the skins off limits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, The_Sheriff said: Its just zenophobic. How in any logical world can it be ok to abuse someone for the colour of their hair but the skins off limits? Do red-haired people identify as a race? It is a genetic trait like baldness or short-sightedness. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Fake, just like their fans Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, The_Sheriff said: Its just zenophobic. How in any logical world can it be ok to abuse someone for the colour of their hair but the skins off limits? Or have a picture of a talking lizard with a cowboy hat on...I mean come on ? The_Sheriff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Do red-haired people identify as a race? It is a genetic trait like baldness or short-sightedness. So is a darker skin tone? When you can tell me why discriminating hair colour is ok but skin is off limits i am all ears...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Foreveram said: Fake, just like their fans I know. As my mate Julie said "What use is that? I made £1.87 last year when they just threw coins."! Mucker1884, Mick Brolly, HorsforthRam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Do red-haired people identify as a race? It is a genetic trait like baldness or short-sightedness. No, but they get bullied by people that used to bully dark skinned people that think they are woke now. The_Sheriff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) With a thin squad, and lots of inexperienced players, we will have the odd game like today when we don't quite meet the standards we've set. Keeping those days few and far between will be key to any survival hopes. I'd imagine Rooney and the players will be as relieved as us fans that this game is out the way, and the team's above us didn't capitalize on our defeat. Sorry for going off topic. Edited January 22, 2022 by Rev Kathcairns, LazloW, Dean (hick) Saunders and 6 others 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, The_Sheriff said: So is a darker skin tone? When you can tell me why discriminating hair colour is ok but skin is off limits i am all ears...... Big Ears? If you wish to argue that 'modern' racism wasn't mostly directed at people with black skin go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ruud Aralliss said: No, but they get bullied by people that used to bully dark skinned people that think they are woke now. What? I'm not bothering to even answer that. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just watched the highlights, Toms miss looks worse than it did live. He should of just passed it to the right of Samba, shame after last week when he was so clinical. I think if he’d scored we’d have won easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Big Ears? If you wish to argue that 'modern' racism wasn't mostly directed at people with black skin go ahead. What? Do explain what point you are trying to make where i am allowed darker skin but not different colour hair. The floors yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, The_Sheriff said: So is a darker skin tone? When you can tell me why discriminating hair colour is ok but skin is off limits i am all ears...... Sorry couldn't resist David Graham Brown, jono, RoyMac5 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_ram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Do red-haired people identify as a race? It is a genetic trait like baldness or short-sightedness. We do. And have a fortnightly meeting on a Tuesday evening on zoom to discuss our conquering of the world, largely through our planted spokespeople; Ed sheeran, Prince Harry and that one off Harry Potter. Edited January 22, 2022 by Red_ram David Graham Brown, RoyMac5 and Indy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Ken Tram said: If it helps you to see it another way ... Although you refer to genocide and slavery, I do not think that the reason for avoiding racism is as a way to say sorry for slavery. We avoid racism because it is wrong. So, if you think it is wrong to label someone by their ethnic and facial features if their ancestors have suffered some horrific historical wrong, then it is also wrong to refer to anyone else's facial features. At worst, you sound racist - at best, that you did not realise that ginger hair is linked to ethnicity - but I doubt that you intended to cause anyone any offence. PS. Many of us might say, "Ginger" this or that when we're emotional. But if someone points out that it sounds racist, then it might be better to just apologise than double down with sarcasm. Thanks for lecture on cod ethics. I'm eager to learn how I can be racist when Colbeck is white, English, and I have traces of the same red-haired gene. Well, actually, I'm not. Ram-Alf and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rev said: With a thin squad, and lots of inexperienced players, we will have the odd game like today when we don't quite meet the standards we've set. Keeping those days few and far between will be key to any survival hopes. I'd imagine Rooney and the players will be as relieved as us fans that this game is out the way, and the team's above us didn't capitalize on our defeat. Sorry for going off topic. I agree. We miss Jags and Shinnie and haven't been able to bring more experience in. I do think that getting a goal back will have helped squad morale. Great penalty win by Tom, he was done by a hatchet job of a tackle. David Graham Brown, Rev and Indy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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