Ram-Alf Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Colbeck appealing for a Red Card EtoileSportiveDeDerby, David Graham Brown, Mick Brolly and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Indy said: It’s not actually racist though, is it? And to hear this false equivalence is actually quite insulting to those of us that have to endure actual racism. Sure we could lay off the personal insults, but this isn’t racism. Maybe discriminatory is a better term ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, angieram said: We're out on the town tonight with the proceeds! ? We should get as many of these together as we can and send them to Steve Gibson! angieram and Kathcairns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Indy said: It’s not actually racist though, is it? And to hear this false equivalence is actually quite insulting to those of us that have to endure actual racism. Sure we could lay off the personal insults, but this isn’t racism. 6 minutes ago, Indy said: It’s not actually racist though, is it? And to hear this false equivalence is actually quite insulting to those of us that have to endure actual racism. Sure we could lay off the personal insults, but this isn’t racism. Contrary to what many people assume, redheads did not originate in Scandinavia, Scotland or Ireland, but in central Asia. Their coloring is due to a mutation in the MC1R gene that fails to produce sun-protective, skin-darkening eumelanin and instead causes pale skin, freckles and red Hair. Racism isn’t just black and white!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, angieram said: We're out on the town tonight with the proceeds! ? Is that a Slur on our Queen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: As I already posted, he didn't he'd previously had a little flick kick at Colbeck after a challenge when Colbeck was on the ground. Fortunately missed by the ref. As was Stears slapping one of their players! ? Who's Stears? Ahhhhh....... You mean Steargoat ? RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBrian Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Unlucky Alf said: Colbeck appealing for a Red Card Not postMAN pat then, whoops am i allowed to say that? Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, nottingram said: Derby players should’ve reacted to Grabban tackle the way theirs did to Morrison’s. Derby should sue Forest because if Grabban had been sent off Derby could stay up and next year get promoted and then they’d win the European Cup when they won the Premier League. RoyMac5, Kathcairns, Sheff Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: Derby should sue Forest because if Grabban had been sent off Derby could stay up and next year get promoted and then they’d win the European Cup when they won the Premier League. Its got more substance than pubeheads claim..... Ramarena and Gritstone Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, angieram said: We're out on the town tonight with the proceeds! ? Should’nt we be reporting this to the relevant authorities. I’m sure counterfeiting money is quite a serious offence. RadioactiveWaste, Kathcairns, angieram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Colbeck appealing for a Red Card To the theme of postman pat - Jack Colbeck Jack Colbeck Jack Colbeck Is a ducking tw@ ??? SirBrian, Ram-Alf, Kathcairns and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ruud Aralliss said: Contrary to what many people assume, redheads did not originate in Scandinavia, Scotland or Ireland, but in central Asia. Their coloring is due to a mutation in the MC1R gene that fails to produce sun-protective, skin-darkening eumelanin and instead causes pale skin, freckles and red Hair. Racism isn’t just black and white!! Always good to get lectured on what is and isn’t racism. Just to be clear: what you said was like racism, wasn’t like racism. Feel free to reply (not wanting to have the last word and run away) - but probably not the right place for this discussion, so I’ll leave my contributions here. Up the Rams! Edited January 22, 2022 by Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Crewton said: Good point - I well remember the slave ships that used to transport red-haired people from Gingerland to the New World, the extermination camps full of them awaiting forced hair-dying......I could go on, but it's too upsetting. If it helps you to see it another way ... Although you refer to genocide and slavery, I do not think that the reason for avoiding racism is as a way to say sorry for slavery. We avoid racism because it is wrong. So, if you think it is wrong to label someone by their ethnic and facial features if their ancestors have suffered some horrific historical wrong, then it is also wrong to refer to anyone else's facial features. At worst, you sound racist - at best, that you did not realise that ginger hair is linked to ethnicity - but I doubt that you intended to cause anyone any offence. PS. Many of us might say, "Ginger" this or that when we're emotional. But if someone points out that it sounds racist, then it might be better to just apologise than double down with sarcasm. Edited January 22, 2022 by Ken Tram Ruud Aralliss and Jimbo Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ruud Aralliss said: Contrary to what many people assume, redheads did not originate in Scandinavia, Scotland or Ireland, but in central Asia. Their coloring is due to a mutation in the MC1R gene that fails to produce sun-protective, skin-darkening eumelanin and instead causes pale skin, freckles and red Hair. Racism isn’t just black and white!! Oh no. I’ve never really had a problem at all with people with ginger or red haired people but you now telling me they might be of Asian heritage puts a completely different slant on the matter. Ram-Alf, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and Indy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, Crewton said: Good point - I well remember the slave ships that used to transport red-haired people from Gingerland to the New World, the extermination camps full of them awaiting forced hair-dying......I could go on, but it's too upsetting. Showing up your ignorance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Can I still call Mel Morris a slap head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Can I still call Mel Morris a slap head? No just call him a Bamford. That’s factual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Lot of bullying went on at my school. Mainly skin tone. I see it still goes in now skin tone bullying is frowned upon. It now moves to other characteristics!!!! @iRam Edited January 22, 2022 by Ruud Aralliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Can I still call Mel Morris a slap head? That is just being discriminatory against someone who is follicly challenged so I think you are ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ken Tram said: If it helps you to see it another way ... Although you refer to genocide and slavery, I do not think that the reason for avoiding racism is as a way to say sorry for slavery. We avoid racism because it is wrong. So, if you think it is wrong to label someone by their ethnic and facial features if their ancestors have suffered some horrific historical wrong, then it is also wrong to refer to anyone else's facial features. At worst, you sound racist - at best, that you did not realise that ginger hair is linked to ethnicity - but I doubt that you intended to cause anyone any offence. PS. Many of us might say, "Ginger" this or that when we're emotional. But if someone points out that it sounds racist, then it might be better to just apologise than double down with sarcasm. So we're now at a stage where any slight on a person or persons hair colour is sean as derogatory. But the original complainant freely posted the word GUMP/S at fellow fans in Nottingham GUMP : a foolish or dull-witted person Is this allowed or was that seen as derogatory...asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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