Allestree Ram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 It’s all feeling pretty helpless. The clock is ticking. I’ve seen the calls for marching to the EFL HQ in Preston which I have some time for. However, I think it needs to be direct pressure on the Government now. The fan led review in November called for an independent regulator for football and the Government have sat on their hands. EFL are corrupt. ‘Team Derby’ MPs are paying lip service and have had no impact so far. Sports Minister is silent. Time for us all to march on Parliament. We could broaden the march into wider anger about football governance if needs be. Get more clubs involved. Despite the idiots who want us to die, I reckon we’d get a great turnout. Options running out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Mum was a Babycham girl I think! Cherry B girls were a bit too racy!!!!! A bet your dad had an occasional double diamond though? uttoxram75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17560348/mike-ashley-Derby-county-bid/ Oh rooster. ”The former Newcastle owner is fuming about the way the Rams’ administrators rejected his offer to buy the club and even subsidise it this season.” If true this shows that quantuma are money grabbing bar stewards Edited February 5, 2022 by Bubbles Ken Tram, Derby4Me and kevinhectoring 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, Allestree Ram said: It’s all feeling pretty helpless. The clock is ticking. I’ve seen the calls for marching to the EFL HQ in Preston which I have some time for. However, I think it needs to be direct pressure on the Government now. The fan led review in November called for an independent regulator for football and the Government have sat on their hands. EFL are corrupt. ‘Team Derby’ MPs are paying lip service and have had no impact so far. Sports Minister is silent. Time for us all to march on Parliament. We could broaden the march into wider anger about football governance if needs be. Get more clubs involved. Despite the idiots who want us to die, I reckon we’d get a great turnout. Options running out I'm up for a March on parliament ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) Weird, coming from Nixon, who said that MA was nowhere near it a few days ago. I know 2 days is a long time in football… but still. So, Binnies, or Appleby then. I know we aren’t in the position to be choosy, but I prefer Appleby to MA… Edited February 5, 2022 by Animal is a Ram Rammy03, CBRammette, SaffyRam and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Brailsford Ram said: I think Mel's offer is masterful. Mel's side will have to negotiate with the High Court to ensure that his offer to transfer liability for the claim from DCFC to himself can be sustained. But if the court approves Mel's offer then the matter is removed completely from the remit of DCFC and the EFL and will simply become MFC v Morris in the High Court. Timescales for settlement there will not affect our club or the administration process. The two parties legal teams can take as long as they want to settle. The problem is that nowhere in Mel's statement does he actually "offer to transfer liability for the claim from DCFC to himself". What he actually says is "I invite Boro, and in due course Wycombe if they so wish, to take their claims to the High Court against me personally" but it is highly doubtful that this is even legally possible due to limited liability. Boro's claim is against DCFC. How can they pursue a case against Mel Morris instead? It would break the fundamental principle of company law wouldn't it? kevinhectoring, Maharan and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17560348/mike-ashley-Derby-county-bid/ Oh rooster. ”The former Newcastle owner is fuming about the way the Rams’ administrators rejected his offer to buy the club and even subsidise it this season.” If true this shows that quantuma are money grabbing bar stewards I don't understand why they don't get on with it and name him as the preferencial bidder if he is still interested. He will pass the EFL fit for purpose test, knows how to run a football club and has the finances to ge out of this mess. Bubbles and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17560348/mike-ashley-Derby-county-bid/ Oh rooster. ”The former Newcastle owner is fuming about the way the Rams’ administrators rejected his offer to buy the club and even subsidise it this season.” If true this shows that quantuma are money grabbing bar stewards Not really. They're tasked with getting the maximum money they can. That's their job. Anyhows why do we have administrators in the club in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Animal is a Ram said: Weird, coming from Nixon, who said that MA was nowhere near it a few days ago. Judging a lot of his posts over the last 24 hours I suspect he’s back to this being guesswork once again Not meaning it as a dig, as I do think he knows more than most, but when the goal posts move to where they no longer fit your narrative then you are back to square one essentially Animal is a Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17560348/mike-ashley-Derby-county-bid/ Oh rooster. ”The former Newcastle owner is fuming about the way the Rams’ administrators rejected his offer to buy the club and even subsidise it this season.” If true this shows that quantuma are money grabbing bar stewards Why would they accept £25m when the Binnies have reportedly already bid £28m? r_wilcockson, Comrade 86, Crewton and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17560348/mike-ashley-Derby-county-bid/ Oh rooster. ”The former Newcastle owner is fuming about the way the Rams’ administrators rejected his offer to buy the club and even subsidise it this season.” If true this shows that quantuma are money grabbing bar stewards No it doesn’t. It means it isn’t the best offer available to the Creditors. Indyram, Ramarena, atherstoneram and 10 others 5 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17560348/mike-ashley-Derby-county-bid/ Oh rooster. So then there was two if Ashley really is out. How can anyone really be sure that we really have seen the last of him? His previous track record in buying failed enterprises has always carried the hallmark of just outbidding competitors at the very end. I can't get it out of my mind that he's a buzzard and he's still hovering above Pride Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Red Ram said: The problem is that nowhere in Mel's statement does he actually "offer to transfer liability for the claim from DCFC to himself". What he actually says is "I invite Boro, and in due course Wycombe if they so wish, to take their claims to the High Court against me personally" but it is highly doubtful that this is even legally possible due to limited liability. Boro's claim is against DCFC. How can they pursue a case against Mel Morris instead? It would break the fundamental principle of company law wouldn't it? See my previous posts on this subject earlier today. I have explained it as fully as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, JfR said: Why would they accept £25m when the Binnies have reportedly already bid £28m? I guess the argument is that the club is worth less with the sales made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) so Ashley Bid is well below the expected figure, less than the Binnies and a bid which would have resulted in us starting next season with -15 points. He’s now reportedly “fuming” when the admins tell him to **** off and put a serious bid in. Beggars belief Edited February 5, 2022 by Derbados Animal is a Ram, r_wilcockson, RadioactiveWaste and 11 others 9 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, JfR said: Why would they accept £25m when the Binnies have reportedly already bid £28m? They’d be foolish to accept any offer until Gibson is sorted. Because every offer was conditional on that RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, i-Ram said: No it doesn’t. It means it isn’t the best offer available to the Creditors. Genuine question - where do the admins fall in the creditors pecking order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I can’t tell if I’m kidding myself, but gut instinct is that this isn’t as bad as people are making it out to be. I’m not saying it’s not a bad thing - one fewer bidder is never good, but he never seemed fully serious about it in the first place. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, davenportram said: There’s no legal age to be left on your own either - just when parents thinks the kids are capable of looking after themselves. It depends entirely on whether or not the child is being left 'at risk'. That is entirely subjective, of course, if nothing untoward actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 We do have 3 parties all frustraited and at least 2 of them (cK and Ashley) we strongly suspect it's because they offered a low ball price and at a best guess all the bids are based on different conditions (not yet met) and all are reluctant to commit to liabilities arising from Boro/WW. Quantuma may or may not be on top of things, again, my guess is theyre a mixed bag on what they do and dont have reasonably solidly agreed. I do think games are being played by several of the parties, if not all of them. I do worry we end up in the worst case out of idiocy and accident rather than intent. I'm going to give it up for the night for the sake of my sanity. I'm doing a 10k run around glasgow green tomorrow morning, so wish me luck (1.05 would be good for me), but it looks like it's going to be cold and hammering down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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