IslandExile Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yet he's already pulled out on buying us once? But we don't know why he did. There were "indicators" that Mel was the obstacle. I believe you're not Mel's greatest fan either, so maybe you could understand that. You also seem to applaud Ashley for trying to get the best deal for himself. Why not afford the same credit to CK? Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Getting a little tired of the 'Quantuma aren't talking to us' line from MA. I'm not trying to defend Quantuma here, but their legal duty as administrators is to get the best deal for the creditors involved. Now, either Quantuma are so bad at their job that they are literally illegal, or CK's offer is still better for creditors than Ashley's offer. DCFC1388, BramcoteRam84, May Contain Nuts and 10 others 5 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: More conflicting info. People involved need to offer some clarity now Maybe, just maybe, Nixon is the one who has been played like a fiddle here? FWIW, whether it’s ended or not we aren’t in a dreadful position. Waiting for Kirchner’s money to clear, if it ever can or we look towards Ashley who no longer has all the cards to play and needs to sweeten his deal. Dordogne-Ram, Derby4Me, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: There has to be some sort of statement coming right?! The last time there was this level of speculation and panic the parties involved did eventually comment You’d think they’d had to be, unless there hiding under a rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Ram Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Getting a little tired of the 'Quantuma aren't talking to us' line from MA. I'm not trying to defend Quantuma here, but their legal duty as administrators is to get the best deal for the creditors involved. Now, either Quantuma are so bad at their job that they are literally illegal, or CK's offer is still better for creditors than Ashley's offer. Plus, if they havent ended CK's exclusivity period then they cant talk to Ashley even if they wanted to.. clue is in the name. Animal is a Ram and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, IslandExile said: But we don't know why he did. There were "indicators" that Mel was the obstacle. I believe you're not Mel's greatest fan either, so maybe you could understand that. You also seem to applaud Ashley for trying to get the best deal for himself. Why not afford the same credit to CK? I do credit CK for getting the best deal for himself mate. I just want DCFC to have a new owner. I've said before if CK gets the money through it's his, and off we go again. I'd prefer Ashley as we know more about his money and where it's from. I don't care what's been said about him not having the stadium painted or even that he sacked all the youngsters. I care that he left Newcastle in the Prem. Short-sighted maybe but I'd be happy for Mike to make his money and sell us as a Prem club. ? But atm CK has the bat and the ball. Edited June 9, 2022 by RoyMac5 Derby4Me, IslandExile, Archied and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yet he's already pulled out on buying us once? that's a very snidey way of representing it. You make it sound like he just changed his mind, when I think if you were being totally honest, even if only with yourself, there was never a deal to be done for those figures thanks to Uncle Mel. It's only months later, when the delusional Administrators finally realised that nobody was going to part with big bucks for magic beans, that a realistic offer was accepted. There is no other truth than CK couldn't strike a reasonable and realistic deal with both Quantuma AND Mel Morris the first time. Comrade 86, IslandExile, Premier ram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, Mostyn6 said: that's a very snidey way of representing it. You make it sound like he just changed his mind, when I think if you were being totally honest, even if only with yourself, there was never a deal to be done for those figures thanks to Uncle Mel. It's only months later, when the delusional Administrators finally realised that nobody was going to part with big bucks for magic beans, that a realistic offer was accepted. There is no other truth than CK couldn't strike a reasonable and realistic deal with both Quantuma AND Mel Morris the first time. Of course there was a deal to be done, he just didn't want to pay the asking price! ? Isn't that what is said about Ashley? The reason Q won't talk to MA is he wants them to take less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Of course there was a deal to be done, he just didn't want to pay the asking price! ? Isn't that what is said about Ashley? The reason Q won't talk to MA is he wants them to take less. And the creditors Comrade 86 and Kathcairns 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 LeedsCityRam, i-Ram, Premier ram and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I hope CK gets his payment through because that’s the best way to keep Rooney, keep current players and to attract new players. DCFC1388, Kernow, Betty Swollocks and 13 others 5 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) Lol. @Animal is a Ramis back up to speed! ? Edited June 9, 2022 by RoyMac5 Animal is a Ram and TuffLuff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 First time cK pulled out the Boro and Wycombe issues were still risk factors for any deal. Any deal at all has only been possible because Mel came to mysterious arrangements with Steve Mr Gibson Stephen. IslandExile, Kathcairns, Premier ram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: If my speculation is correct (its probably not) I can't help but feel sorry for a guy who's genuinely tried to save us asap only to fail because another man with better contacts and better funds has decided to stop playing us. Ultimately whoever comes out on top needs to be the best long term deal for the club. But morally I think how Ashley has played this deal is very slimy and ungentlemanly and has done nothing for our short term future and the fans blood pressure. Flint signs for Stoke some are saying, Lawrence leaving for a better wage, Saudi Arabia ducking with golf, Man City offer a kings ransom to Erling Haarland, Welcome to the world of money and greed, Those that can offer more will, Those that can't fall by the wayside Kathcairns and IslandExile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, Unlucky Alf said: Flint signs for Stoke some are saying, Lawrence leaving for a better wage, Saudi Arabia ducking with golf, Man City offer a kings ransom to Erling Haarland, Welcome to the world of money and greed, Those that can offer more will, Those that can't fall by the wayside Haarland will probably be earning enough to buy us! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, IslandExile said: And the creditors Possibly so. But only going on what was said the first time around. De ja vu? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Derby4Me, IslandExile, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Haarland will probably be earning enough to buy us! ? His Dad is a Red Dog though RoyMac5 and whiteroseram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Because the £28m includes purchase of the ground, leaving very little for the creditors. Do we know that? Surely there’s no need for it to include purchase of the ground now? Whomever was doing a deal to work with CK can surely make that agreement with any eventual buyer of Derby County? And if they wouldn’t, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: But atm CK has the bat and the ball. Well, he's got the bat... the ball appears to be lost in the anti-money-laundering long grass for now! Miggins, Ram-Alf, IslandExile and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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