EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, CBX1985 said: @RoyMac5It is a collective investment of some variety - my view would be an invitational UCIS. A bit like monies in your pension, the front man/company would be the regulated person/entity. The investors would have money laundering checks getting money into the collective, and the front man (and most likely company) would take responsibility for accepting these, though authorities can check. Sounds complicated, could they try with a debit card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, CBX1985 said: @RoyMac5It is a collective investment of some variety - my view would be an invitational UCIS. A bit like monies in your pension, the front man/company would be the regulated person/entity. The investors would have money laundering checks getting money into the collective, and the front man (and most likely company) would take responsibility for accepting these, though authorities can check. Well that sounds like they'll be ready to go then too. So will it be decided by who provides the money for June's wages (no not the woman in accounts!)? (I don't think so really, but we need to get them paid on time.) Edited June 23, 2022 by RoyMac5 jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFarInToTurnRed Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: MA needs his own court room At least if he takes over the EFL might think twice before taking more action against us considering how scared they are of being sued. RoyMac5, r_wilcockson, RAM1966 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td_evans Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 https://theathletic.com/3377704/2022/06/23/derby-country-quantuma-administration/?source=emp_shared_article Some interesting quotes in this from Andrew Hosking. Namely that Kirchner did pay the wages: Quantuma insists it did nothing wrong in making Kirchner the preferred bidder. “He was matching exactly what the EFL wanted and indicated he would fund — and he did — the wages,” Hosking says And that a secondary points deduction is possibly on the cards “It would be naive of me to not ensure we’ve got funding available and assuage the EFL’s concerns, but that’s very much a secondary protection strategy. The main strategy is to get the club sold and sold as quickly as possible. “Quite what the terms will be, we’ll have to wait and see. Could there be negative points? When do I think it will happen? I genuinely don’t know.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Indy said: Almost. These sort of bids could have been looked at ages ago if EFL/Gibson claim had not been threatening a possible £50m liability in the future. By the time CK was preferred bidder, that damage had all been done, and his was the only bid on the table. I’m not sure that’s quite right, I heard that Quantuma along with Mel Morris are in fact CKs adoptive parents and gave him exclusivity over any and all other bidders as they wanted their baby boy to be happy and have a new play thing, there’s simply no other logical explanation for the delays and time wasted throughout the process. They made up the legal claims and the EFLs role in all of this so they can carry on milking the massive cash cow that is Derby County on the brink of liquidation with minimal saleable assets…. Just messing! They are useless mind. Edited June 23, 2022 by Caerphilly Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Can we have a good news day today please ? r_wilcockson, jimtastic56, w8sey and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, td_evans said: https://theathletic.com/3377704/2022/06/23/derby-country-quantuma-administration/?source=emp_shared_article Some interesting quotes in this from Andrew Hosking. Namely that Kirchner did pay the wages: Quantuma insists it did nothing wrong in making Kirchner the preferred bidder. “He was matching exactly what the EFL wanted and indicated he would fund — and he did — the wages,” Hosking says And that a secondary points deduction is possibly on the cards “It would be naive of me to not ensure we’ve got funding available and assuage the EFL’s concerns, but that’s very much a secondary protection strategy. The main strategy is to get the club sold and sold as quickly as possible. “Quite what the terms will be, we’ll have to wait and see. Could there be negative points? When do I think it will happen? I genuinely don’t know.” Kieran Maguire reckons the 'person' that CK got the money off for the wages wants it back. https://twitter.com/Owen_Holmes_/status/1539866233222402049 Phuket Ram, Derby4Me and jimtastic56 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 54 minutes ago, Boycie said: I’ll bet Ashley’s bid is the lowest as it’s deducted some of the admins payment. It will be interesting If it is the lowest, but best for all creditors bar Q. RadioactiveWaste and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, Sheff Ram said: Just get this fricken deal done. Friendlies announced and we haven't got a team we can put out currently. Not heard a peep from Rooney. If he walks we are in big trouble. This 9 months have been death by a 1000 cuts. Time to start the healing process... 29 months you mean. This all started when we were charged by the EFL in Jan 2020. You could even take it back to March 2019 and call it 39 months if you look at when Morris started to indicate he wanted out and the spending was going to slow down. jimtastic56, Sheff Ram, Ramrob and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addingham Ram Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Wrong I'd give up if I were you GoC. You must be getting fed up with correcting people. What will you do when the club actually announce a squad and there's enough to field a team (albeit a young inexperienced team), and there's nobody left to correct? Ram-a-lama fa fa fa, Comrade 86 and Caerphilly Ram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 10 hours ago, PistoldPete said: So we don't just have anal accountants on this thread we have anal language students too. Are they being faecestious? Mucker1884, Will Hughes Hair, Miggins and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: MA needs his own court room Court summons for defamation arriving Chez Mostyn in 3, 2, 1... Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) The most concerning thing about that atletic article this morning is the lack of new info. if there was something concrete apart from posturing from Ashley and Appleby you would have assumed they would have known about it by now. the days are going too quickly with nothing happening, every day is vital if we are to survive this and for me there is too little happening. why do we not have a preferred bidder, almost 2 weeks on from the last guy doing us up the jacksie. Remember it took them an age to announce ck as the bidder. I just think both Appleby and Ashley are not offering enough money to get us out of admin. Whether they are leaving it until the last minute I don’t know , we can only hope that is the case, but the odd one out in this is the efl, if they don’t see progress over the next week they will take away our golden share it really is as simple as that Edited June 23, 2022 by alram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Kieran Maguire reckons the 'person' that CK got the money off for the wages wants it back. https://twitter.com/Owen_Holmes_/status/1539866233222402049 That sounds like Kirchner's problem. Edited June 23, 2022 by JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta RAM1966 and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: That sounds like Kirchner problem. Amusing though. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Amusing though. Absolutely, and based on what we now know about Kirchner I suspect whoever put that cash in won't see a penny. RoyMac5 and alram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, alram said: why do we not have a preferred bidder Because Quantuma stated, after the Kirchner deal collapsed, that they weren't going to formally name a PB this time. nogbad van 50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, Crewton said: Because Quantuma stated, after the Kirchner deal collapsed, that they weren't going to formally name a PB this time. They also stated 'best and final' so maybe that's why no-one has bid yet? More nothings spun by Nixon: Phuket Ram, Crewton, S8TY and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: They also stated 'best and final' so maybe that's why no-one has bid yet? More nothings spun by Nixon: Would have to pass fit n proper owner check - cheers Al, we knew that. MAs £50m is in a bank account - cheers Al, Percy told us that. Wages due at the end of the month - cheers Al, we knew that. Caerphilly Ram, Dordogne-Ram, RoyMac5 and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8sey Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: They also stated 'best and final' so maybe that's why no-one has bid yet? More nothings spun by Nixon: Sooner this saga is over the better. Can't stand reading anymore drivel from nixon. Edited June 23, 2022 by w8sey Ewe Ram, RoyMac5, Phuket Ram and 6 others 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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