Topram Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ariotofmyown said: One Direction are buying us? ? ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Can Quantuma do press conference or something please jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajstrawb Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, TexasRam said: How can there be no progress of someone’s made a bid??? Wtf are they doing My thoughts also! I just don’t understand it at all Hans Datdo-Dishes, r_wilcockson, Wolfie and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Topram said: It’s heading in 1 direction and 1 direction only! Actually think Onechop is going to end up being right I tend to agree jimtastic56 and Topram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, TexasRam said: How can there be no progress of someone’s made a bid??? Wtf are they doing Who had told Ed Dawes this? Appleby? The statement from q didn’t seem to suggest that any bids had been received since Ck dropped out. atherstoneram, Derby4Me, CBRammette and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, PistoldPete said: Who had told Ed Dawes this? Appleby? The statement from q didn’t seem to suggest that any bids had been received since Ck dropped out. That’s what I thought when I read their statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, TexasRam said: How can there be no progress of someone’s made a bid??? Wtf are they doing Any number of reasons, I suppose. Maybe the bid still isn't enough to meet the minimum requirements (despite what we've been told by the press). Maybe there are complications with the bid (possibly overseas investors, and questions over money transfers again?). Maybe they're in dialog with other bidders who haven't submitted yet, and Quantuma feel they can't progress one bid until they've assessed all of them fairly etc etc Like I said at the time - anyone expecting someone to swoop in and do a deal in a few days was dreaming. Hence Quantuma giving Kirchner repeated chances to get it over the line. Derby4Me and Carnero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: But they are not willing to buy us at the price required so it seems, the only way they can buy us for a low cost i imagine is if the club is liquidated and they start a phoenix club. The idea of "let them buy us at any price" is not an option as the administrators have insolvency rules to follow, doubt it's Quantuma's fault that the debt is too high and bidders willing to accept it. Everything is about the money and not sentiment or history. Thats the inevitable point of view I'm coming to ? Throughout this entire debacle I've been reasonably confident we'll get sold, dust ourselves down and begin the long road back. Now I'm not so sure. It seems like no one is willing to pay what is necessary (more than we're worth) to save the club. The next best option is to accept a realistic bid, -15pts, small inexperienced squad and potential slide into League 2. But even that, as of yet, doesn't seem to be forthcoming. Hypothetically, If you assume that given the size of Derby (number of fans) it will cause security concerns to allow us to restart much below league 2/Conference at what point does a phoenix club become a better financial decision than the lowball -15pt potential slide into League 2 bid? I still hope someone comes in with more money than sense but its starting to look like the inevitable imho. Surely the EFL will pull the plug in the coming weeks if can't prove funding beyond a month to month basis and start recruiting players?!? Edited June 20, 2022 by maxjam Will Hughes Hair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 So much for all the media hype around ashley talking about saving the club. 2 weeks and we are back to where we were 9 months ago. Really really fed up now and starting to not give a damn of this boring saga anymore. Apppeby has bid around 40 million plus and no progress. What an absolute mess Morris has made where 40 million plus isnt good enough I know nuffin, jimtastic56 and Ken Tram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 hours ago, PistoldPete said: Well a private buyer (believed to be Clowes) agreed the purchase of PPS. Or do you think he was really another crypto guy with only monopoly money? No idea. Stopped listening to rumours, only get hurt more when they don't happen Ken Tram, SaffyRam and jimtastic56 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Don't know why people keep asking him tbh, he must be basking in the glory. Because he does know some things and knows more than many. But he also likes to keep things opaque in case changes make him look stupid. ? 18 minutes ago, Boycie said: Can you stop quoting Nixons Twitter feed please, he’s banned me recently and he wouldn’t appreciate me being able to read his ??on here instead. ? Do you mean this as a mod, cos if so I'll stop, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, dajstrawb said: My thoughts also! I just don’t understand it at all It obviously wasn’t a competitive bid then. No one will pay the required price it seems- maybe there is hope EFL would relax their own rules on exiting administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, maxjam said: Thats the inevitable point of view I'm coming to ? Throughout this entire debacle I've been reasonably confident we'll get sold, dust ourselves down and begin the long road back. Now I'm not so sure. It seems like no one is willing to pay what is necessary (more than we're worth) to save the club. The next best option is to accept a realistic bid, -15pts, small inexperienced squad and potential slide into League 2. But even that, as of yet, doesn't seem to be forthcoming. Hypothetically, If you assume that given the size of Derby (number of fans) it will cause security concerns to allow us to restart much below league 2/Conference at what point does a phoenix club become a better financial decision than the lowball -15pt potential slide into League 2 bid? I still hope someone comes in with more money than sense but, its starting to look like the inevitable imho. Surely the EFL will pull the plug in the coming weeks if can't prove funding beyond a month to month basis and start recruiting players?!? Looks this way now unfortunately. Maybe a deal will be done to start AFC Derby County into League2. Everything practically the same except legally. No debts and acquired on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I imagine there’s a difference between ‘a bid’ where you’ve given your intention to administrators and what you can offer and an ‘official bid’, where you need to put down in writing whos involved, where the money comes from etc etc. That’ll be the difference in Appleby and the admins use of ‘bid’. Then I dare say ‘you lot’ are looking far too much into it! atherstoneram, May Contain Nuts and FlyBritishMidland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Who had told Ed Dawes this? Appleby? The statement from q didn’t seem to suggest that any bids had been received since Ck dropped out. Unless Quantuma have stipulated that all bids must remain confidential between them and the bidder (which wouldn't be unusual in any kind of bidding situation), they're free to send a copy of their bid (or at least the key points of it) to the EFL, which would possibly ramp up pressure on Quantuma. The broad principles of Appleby's bid have already apparently been leaked to EMT anyway, so if they've submitted a compliant bid, why not bring in the Regulator? So it's either (i) no formal bid has been made (ii) Quantuma, and not the bidders, have stipulated that bids must remain confidential or (iii) they don't want the EFL to have the bid details because they don't trust them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 More loans? More debt! Higher bids required ffs just liquidate us this is getting a bit out of hand jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I think I'm more worried than ever. All it takes for us to fail is miscalculation and I feel thats happened/happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrob Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: One Direction are buying us? Always knew Niall would come and save us in the end ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 So now if the local guy doesn’t put the money in for this months wages they are turning to msd to cover it. So it’s too expensive now but let’s add another 1.6 Million on too it. At this rate the local consortium are going to have to team up with Appleby or something along these lines. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Hmrc are a creditor. Who will get nothing if Derby folds. I think we have had that discussion before. HMRC are a creditor who battled to get their status enhanced for exactly this type of situation. I dont believe they will expect 100% recovery, but do believe they are not going to let Football Clubs have their pants down anymore. jimtastic56 and atherstoneram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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