Eddie Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I thought Appleby and the Binnies, probably with Gadsby waiting in the bushes as he's gone very quiet. It could equally be Krusty the Clown and Sideshow Bob. I got rather lost by December. Wasn't the forerunner of Sideshow Bob called Sideshow Mel? /old. Next birthday, I shall be saying "Sixty-nine, dudes". //really looking forward to that day. Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Yes absolutely, the toilets at Sports Direct in Shirebrook doubled as maternity wards Excellent use of facilities. David Graham Brown and Tyler Durden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: Had a reply from the EFL for once. Hello Gritsone Thank you for your email, we acknowledge your views. While recognising this remains a challenging time for everyone connected to the Club, the EFL’s statement (issued on Thursday 3 February here) reiterates the EFL’s request for relevant and associated parties to enter formal collaborative negotiations to actively seek out the compromises and solutions. This also includes continuing transparent dialogue with politicians and engagement with Derby Supporters’ Groups. As a point of clarification, and for the avoidance of doubt, the EFL has not declared the claims made by Middlesbrough and Wycombe as football debt, rather that under the terms of the EFL’s Insolvency Policy, the claims cannot be ignored. Put another way, the EFL cannot rule that they are not creditors as the claims may subsequently be upheld by independent process. The EFL cannot unilaterally decide if the claims should be dismissed, that is why under the terms of the EFL’s Articles of Association and Insolvency policy we are working with parties involved, and continuing to encourage them to seek to progress this matter independently, via commercial agreement, arbitration or the courts. While not the only solution, when there are disputes between Clubs, there is an arbitration mechanism as set out in our Regulations which is independent and objective, consisting of lawyers and judges, appointed to settle disputes in a fair manner. Clearly nobody wants disputes between Clubs but they will occasionally arise, be over transfer fees or player medicals for example, and the mechanism in the rules means they can be resolved independently of the League. As the statement clarifies, the EFL has reiterated this position to Quantuma, so as to enable them to apply to the High Court or engage in Arbitration to have that issue determined. It is now for the Administrators to determine how they wish to move this matter forward and we remain willing to expedite any process, as necessary. Again we do understand that this is a concerning time for Derby supporters, and the EFL will endeavour to provide updates on any progress achieved as a result of this request and any subsequent discussions in due course. Thank you for contacting the EFL. Kind Regards I still don’t understand why Quantuma are the party that have to take it to Court. Quantuma should decline arbitration and mediation and then it is up to the claimants to take it further should they so desire. But the claimants will just sit back knowing they achieved their objective of screwing us over the takeover and our players with contracts existing in the summer. There should be a time limit on the claims after which they are dismissed or have to go to court Edited February 7, 2022 by StrawHillRam Indyram, angieram and r_wilcockson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Isn't this a bit important? Yeah I though so. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Ashley showing the Derby fans he's not a Red Dog! Count the fingers... #COYR David Graham Brown, Ewetube and StaffsRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: Just been listening to RD and some legal expert called Hillary who sounded like a bloke btw said M & WW won’t take MM up on his off because any judge in a proper court would throw the case out. So what next?? There are men called Hillary Gritstone? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: Had a reply from the EFL for once. Hello Gritsone Thank you for your email, we acknowledge your views. While recognising this remains a challenging time for everyone connected to the Club, the EFL’s statement (issued on Thursday 3 February here) reiterates the EFL’s request for relevant and associated parties to enter formal collaborative negotiations to actively seek out the compromises and solutions. This also includes continuing transparent dialogue with politicians and engagement with Derby Supporters’ Groups. As a point of clarification, and for the avoidance of doubt, the EFL has not declared the claims made by Middlesbrough and Wycombe as football debt, rather that under the terms of the EFL’s Insolvency Policy, the claims cannot be ignored. Put another way, the EFL cannot rule that they are not creditors as the claims may subsequently be upheld by independent process. The EFL cannot unilaterally decide if the claims should be dismissed, that is why under the terms of the EFL’s Articles of Association and Insolvency policy we are working with parties involved, and continuing to encourage them to seek to progress this matter independently, via commercial agreement, arbitration or the courts. While not the only solution, when there are disputes between Clubs, there is an arbitration mechanism as set out in our Regulations which is independent and objective, consisting of lawyers and judges, appointed to settle disputes in a fair manner. Clearly nobody wants disputes between Clubs but they will occasionally arise, be over transfer fees or player medicals for example, and the mechanism in the rules means they can be resolved independently of the League. As the statement clarifies, the EFL has reiterated this position to Quantuma, so as to enable them to apply to the High Court or engage in Arbitration to have that issue determined. It is now for the Administrators to determine how they wish to move this matter forward and we remain willing to expedite any process, as necessary. Again we do understand that this is a concerning time for Derby supporters, and the EFL will endeavour to provide updates on any progress achieved as a result of this request and any subsequent discussions in due course. Thank you for contacting the EFL. Kind Regards Thanks for this. A little bit of backtracking on debt point possibly but you elicited a full reply at least. Perhaps the admins could employ you Gritstone Ram and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Well some fans might have been convinced before that Ashley was interested in buying us but I wasn't. Now we have heard from The Man himself, I'm convinced he is wanting to buy us and this is a shove back at Mel (price of stadium) and Admin (their bill)! Lets hear some chants at the game tomorrow? So in summary nothing new then. Just because you didnt believe any of the bajillion reports on Mike Ashleys interest and bid it still doesn't make it new information. I want him to buy us, but if he's not offering more than the Binnies he wont be the preferred bidder. Edited February 7, 2022 by GenBr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Isn't this a bit important? Yep, exactly as I said the other day, Amanda Solloway had misread the situation, the EFL said the claims should be defended as if they were a football debt, not that they are a football debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, GenBr said: So in summary nothing new then. Just because you didnt believe any of the bajillion reports on Mike Ashleys interest and bid it still doesn't make it new information. I want him to buy us, but if he's not offering more than the Binnies he wont be the preferred bidder. You're ignoring the other bits that were said by Ashley's PR man. Okay. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ashley showing the Derby fans he's not a Red Dog! Count the fingers... #COYR 4 and 1 thumb. Might be celebrating the Red Dogs result yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) Edited February 7, 2022 by RoyMac5 Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: At least we wouldn’t be paying out big wages. We’d have a load of Poles playing for us on 0 hour contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Still not overly positive is it? The barriers are still there. Still no preferred bidder. Still no progression. COYR ? Gritstone Tup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 The second legal bod on RD saying that Mel’s offer wasn’t really about MFC/WW suing him but him indemnifying the club against those claims - I’m not sure that’s right. I really didn’t get that at all from Mel’s statement. It might be the next step if pube-head refuses but I don’t think it’s his opening gambit. Ewetube and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'll be back in 81 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On radio Derby the legal expert said that Mel's offer on Friday does not require M or W permission. He said it was like three friends going for a curry and one says I will pay the bill if there is one. So come on admins get it done. If the EFL object then get the MPs and Sports Minister onto them. Never mind pragmatism they want closing down. r_wilcockson, strawhillram and David Graham Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: Had a reply from the EFL for once. Hello Gritsone Thank you for your email, we acknowledge your views. While recognising this remains a challenging time for everyone connected to the Club, the EFL’s statement (issued on Thursday 3 February here) reiterates the EFL’s request for relevant and associated parties to enter formal collaborative negotiations to actively seek out the compromises and solutions. This also includes continuing transparent dialogue with politicians and engagement with Derby Supporters’ Groups. As a point of clarification, and for the avoidance of doubt, the EFL has not declared the claims made by Middlesbrough and Wycombe as football debt, rather that under the terms of the EFL’s Insolvency Policy, the claims cannot be ignored. Put another way, the EFL cannot rule that they are not creditors as the claims may subsequently be upheld by independent process. The EFL cannot unilaterally decide if the claims should be dismissed, that is why under the terms of the EFL’s Articles of Association and Insolvency policy we are working with parties involved, and continuing to encourage them to seek to progress this matter independently, via commercial agreement, arbitration or the courts. While not the only solution, when there are disputes between Clubs, there is an arbitration mechanism as set out in our Regulations which is independent and objective, consisting of lawyers and judges, appointed to settle disputes in a fair manner. Clearly nobody wants disputes between Clubs but they will occasionally arise, be over transfer fees or player medicals for example, and the mechanism in the rules means they can be resolved independently of the League. As the statement clarifies, the EFL has reiterated this position to Quantuma, so as to enable them to apply to the High Court or engage in Arbitration to have that issue determined. It is now for the Administrators to determine how they wish to move this matter forward and we remain willing to expedite any process, as necessary. Again we do understand that this is a concerning time for Derby supporters, and the EFL will endeavour to provide updates on any progress achieved as a result of this request and any subsequent discussions in due course. Thank you for contacting the EFL. Kind Regards Doesn’t it bloody annoy you that they can’t even get your name right! Amateurs ? David Graham Brown, Gritstone Ram, Steve How Hard? and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, hiltonram said: On radio Derby the legal expert said that Mel's offer on Friday does not require M or W permission. He said it was like three friends going for a curry and one says I will pay the bill if there is one. So come on admins get it done. If the EFL object then get the MPs and Sports Minister onto them. Never mind pragmatism they want closing down. Who would go out for a curry with “mates” like Gibson and the Wycombe stooge. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ashley showing the Derby fans he's not a Red Dog! Count the fingers... #COYR I must admit I find it kind of reassuring that he is still interested, anyone else feel that way ? strawhillram, Carnero, hintonsboots and 9 others 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: I must admit I find it kind of reassuring that he is still interested, anyone else feel that way ? Yes I am, but I don’t know why I’m feeling that way Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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