Sparkle Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 12 hours ago, The Key Club King said: Shinnie played in the Blackburn loss too where he was awful. The only truly transformative player we have is Bielik. We weren’t awful in midfield vs Blackburn we were just run ragged by their 3 forwards in a different part of the pitch because Blackburn put it down the channels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 12 hours ago, The Key Club King said: I never calculated it but last season points with Bielik must have been over double of those without him. My hope for this season is that he has even half as much impact as he did last season. He's the only player we've been missing that could possibly transform us. This season we have better defenders at centre half which helps a lot currently! Who are you considering dropping to put Belick in the side ? He won’t be fully fit for a very long time jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: This season we have better defenders at centre half which helps a lot currently! Who are you considering dropping to put Belick in the side ? He won’t be fully fit for a very long time I prefer Bird to Shinnie so I would likely drop Shinnie in the current formation though given our weakness out wide, I would probably play a midfield three. I would also argue that our defenders are not better than last season. Only Jagielka is new and he has been great, but we have lost Clarke who was at least as good if not better. We defend better as a team but seemingly at the expense of attacking threat. This is probably necessary given what Rooney has at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said: I crunched some stats once that said our ppg last season was 1.0 higher with Bielik in the team than without him. However, it is true that we won the first 2 games after he was injured the second time. All this demonstrates is that while we CAN win without him, we're more likely to do better WITH him. My point with Shinnie is that some players can make a reasonable difference to a team but it is unlikely that one man at this level is the difference between awful (Barnsley) and good (Millwall). I then argue that Bielik is one of the few that do make a massive difference. And as he is our one remaining card to play this season (no money/transfer embargo/administration), I hope I'm right or we are going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Key Club King said: I would also argue that our defenders are not better than last season. Only Jagielka is new and he has been great, but we have lost Clarke who was at least as good if not better. We defend better as a team but seemingly at the expense of attacking threat. Interesting that we've already scored more goals from defence than last season (4v2) but have only one assist so far from that area compared to 7 last season, all from the FB positions. The Key Club King 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, The Key Club King said: I prefer Bird to Shinnie so I would likely drop Shinnie in the current formation though given our weakness out wide, I would probably play a midfield three. I would also argue that our defenders are not better than last season. Only Jagielka is new and he has been great, but we have lost Clarke who was at least as good if not better. We defend better as a team but seemingly at the expense of attacking threat. This is probably necessary given what Rooney has at his disposal. I wouldn’t be saying clarke is better than Davies or Jagielka at all but that’s all about opinions Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I wouldn’t be saying clarke is better than Davies or Jagielka at all but that’s all about opinions Agreed, I’d say Clarke’s big advantage was he was more mobile, not necessarily better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Sparkle said: I wouldn’t be saying clarke is better than Davies or Jagielka at all but that’s all about opinions Prosaically Clarke looks a lot older than Jagielka even though he's 15 years younger than him. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick Ram Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Please stop calling him Shinniesta. Iniesta was one of the best footballers of his generation. His was technically brilliant. Shinnie is nowhere near him. Shinnie is an enforcer only. His technical and passing ability is average on a good day. Comrade 86 and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Warwick Ram said: Please stop calling him Shinniesta. Iniesta was one of the best footballers of his generation. His was technically brilliant. Shinnie is nowhere near him. Shinnie is an enforcer only. His technical and passing ability is average on a good day. Er.. it's a joke. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Warwick Ram said: Please stop calling him Shinniesta. Iniesta was one of the best footballers of his generation. His was technically brilliant. Shinnie is nowhere near him. Shinnie is an enforcer only. His technical and passing ability is average on a good day. You’re right. Let’s start calling him Graemar! Mucker1884, Comrade 86, RIMBAUD and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Anag Ram said: You’re right. Let’s start calling him Graemar! Shinsebeo? Shinadonna? Comrade 86 and Mucker1884 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, RIMBAUD said: Shinsebeo? Shinadonna? Shinninho. Shinnaldo. Mucker1884, norwichram, Premier ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Warwick Ram said: Please stop calling him Shinniesta. Iniesta was one of the best footballers of his generation. His was technically brilliant. Shinnie is nowhere near him. Shinnie is an enforcer only. His technical and passing ability is average on a good day. Depends on your perspective. Iniesta was a standout player in a team of superstars. Shinnie is often a standout play in a pretty dire team ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Warwick Ram said: Please stop calling him Shinniesta. Iniesta was one of the best footballers of his generation. His was technically brilliant. Shinnie is nowhere near him. Shinnie is an enforcer only. His technical and passing ability is average on a good day. Steve How Hard? and Ramarena 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Warwick Ram said: Please stop calling him Shinniesta. Iniesta was one of the best footballers of his generation. His was technically brilliant. Shinnie is nowhere near him. Shinnie is an enforcer only. His technical and passing ability is average on a good day. Comrade 86 and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Warwick Ram said: Please stop calling him Shinniesta. Iniesta was one of the best footballers of his generation. His was technically brilliant. Shinnie is nowhere near him. Shinnie is an enforcer only. His technical and passing ability is average on a good day. How about Grohn Shinstace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 We have strong "post of the year" candidate here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Bielik Record 2020-21 7 Nov – Played 90 minutes L 21 Nov – DNP 25 Nov – DNP 28 Nov – DNP 1 Dec – Played 90 minutes, was booked D 5 Dec – Played 90 minutes, was booked W 9 Dec – Played 90 minutes D 12 Dec - Played 90 minutes, booked D 16 Dec – Played 90 minutes, W 26 Dec – Played 90 minutes L 29 Dec – Played 90 minutes, scored W 1 Jan – Played 90 minutes L 16 Jan – Played 67 minutes, booked L 19 Jan - Played 90 minutes, scored W 23 Jan - Played 90 minutes W 30 Jan – Played 36 minutes, injured W (will add this one to his win record even though he was off quite early) LDWDDWLWLLWWW 13 games – 6 wins 4 defeats 3 draws 6 games directly after the injury we won 3 drew 1 lost 2 we know what happened after that false dawn ? Currently has missed 68 games through injury since we signed him according to Transfermarkt The Key Club King 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 07/11/2021 at 20:14, Anag Ram said: You’re right. Let’s start calling him Graemar! On 07/11/2021 at 20:17, RIMBAUD said: Shinsebeo? Shinadonna? On 07/11/2021 at 20:19, PistoldPete said: Shinninho. Shinnaldo. Grelé? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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