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It's funny, wind the clock back 10/15 years, I watched EVERY England game, would go to the pub or did something for each one. I watched Match of the day every week, I knew most Premier League players whether we were in the division or not.

Now, I have no interest in England, unless a major tournament, but struggle to name the players and have no idea who most of them play for.  I have absolutely no interest in Premier League football at all. Seeing Brighton and Burnley spending 30 million on a player, seeing game after game ruined by dodgy VAR decisions. Seeing the likes of Aston Villa, Man City and Leicester cheat FFP and succeed as a result.

My interest in football hangs by a thread, which is Derby County and my God is that interest taking a beating.

I'll never give up on Derby, but if we go under (which is looking a possibility at the minute) I wont watch a single minute of football.

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Love watching live fooball, the atmosphere, the movement off the ball just being there. 8k TV, 100", dolby, smellovision, the lot will never replace it for me. What is doing my head in is the commercialisation of football. It is no longer the game of the people, it might be in Germany but here it is way too expensive. Lots of reasons for that PL, owners who like the Glazers would not know a football if it hit them in the face but do know about $$$$, agents, average players making a fortune (good luck to them) in The championship and ruining clubs. 50 quid for a football replica which costs £2 to make. 

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I can't see a scenario where Derby go out of existence..just won't happen.

Wouldn't be at all surprised to see us end up in Administration and start again from there with new owners and a new vision. No reason why we can't still make it to the Premier League, things turn around very quickly in this game .

You only have to look at small clubs like Crystal Palace, they have been in the Premier League for a good few seasons now taking the riches on offer.

As for football, it's ridiculously healthy at the top end in this country, that's one reason why these players are going for obscene money and earning obscene wages. The Premier League product continues to be the world leader.

 

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2 hours ago, Mostyn6 said:

The game has been ruined by greed, you’re 100% correct, you just picked a bad example. 

Well Bill’s actual example wasn’t good but it is beyond belief that Messi earned more than €555m between 2017-21, and Barcelona confirm today that they are €1.35bn in debt.

Financial fair play my arse. 

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I honestly don't get the appeal of supporting a team like Man City. Even if I was an old time Man City fan I'd stop because the clubs been ruined. They're just a big characterless, boring nothing. Where everything they do is meaningless and you're a customer instead of a fan. The only worse thing than Derby dying would be them turning into another Man City.

I used to watch a bit of the Premier League but the ever increasing effect money has on it has reached a point where I've just lost all interested, and it's starting to ruin the Championship as well. If it wasn't for Fantasy Football I wouldn't even acknowledge it. I've always wanted Derby to get promoted, but if they ever got up and became an established PL team I'd fear it would get boring. 

I think something like the European Super League could be good for the rest of football in a way. It could act as a magnet for all the greed and commercialisation, as well as the casual global audience that have inadvertently caused a lot of harm to English football. It could allow the rest of the teams to go back to something like it once was.

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6 hours ago, Monty said:

It won’t die but it needs restructuring 

It’s been 30 years since the PL was formed and in that time only seven clubs have won it. Two of those were Leicester and Blackburn and the latter is unlikely to repeat it

 

Just to add to your information, one of the so called big 6 that tried to breakaway into the Euro super League have not won the PL. In fact they have'nt won the top division title since 1961.

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10 minutes ago, plymouthram said:

Just to add to your information, one of the so called big 6 that tried to breakaway into the Euro super League have not won the PL. In fact they have'nt won the top division title since 1961.

Surprised me looking at their record, assuming they don't win anything this season they'll have won an FA cup and 2 league cups in 40 forty years.  Seemed that Spurs always seemed to be in the FA cup final when I was young, so I suppose like me they've seen better days unlikely to return. Super league my arse.  

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3 hours ago, Mostyn6 said:

No I don’t. You’re slating Leo Messi and his crocodile tears (for not being able to stay at Barca) when it wasn’t money, or the lack of it, that prevented him staying. 
 

show me where greed by Messi negates his “crocodile tears”. 

He could have played for peanuts for them instead of the silly money that they could not afford. Still could have raked in millions in sponsorship and advertising deals to keep his agent sweet.

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4 minutes ago, plymouthram said:

He could have played for peanuts for them instead of the silly money that they could not afford. Still could have raked in millions in sponsorship and advertising deals to keep his agent sweet.

As I understand it under Spanish employment law he couldn't.

If Derby went I might go to watch the closest team to my house, Bradford City, play, I have no love for them but find their visceral hatred of Leeds somehow comforting.

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I love the best of food, but you know, La Gavroche is one thing. Glazed free range Duck Breasts with a confit of plum is one thing, even better with a bottle of Haut Medoc, It carries a price. I’d enjoy it … But a chewy bap with loads of bacon, dripping and a split sausage from a van is every bit as good in its own way … So football as we know it will never die … it will relocate perhaps, but you’ll still be wiping the ketchup off with a scrappy paper towel and loving every second. 

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