The coronabrexit thread. I mean, coronavirus thread

[Gone]

19 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

me, my main concern is the effect on kids, teenagers and young adults. What should have been happy, care free time, playing, socialising, a bit of learning may be, enjoying the best years of life has been messed up on a grand scale. i hope it does not affect them for the rest of their life.

Couldn’t agree more, this has been massively overlooked throughout this pooshow. As we’re getting more back to normal and hopefully soon exactly back to normal (that is if the great triple Amazonian mutant variant doesn’t strike in or around the 17/18th July!) I hope we can ensure the children and youth are given the chance to do everything they’ve missed out on without living in fear of it or being made to live in fear of it. 

[EtoileSportiveDeDerby]

Good little article in the Times this morning about Matt wanderingcock who commented at the time about Neil Fergusson who went to see his lover in lockdown, Matt said he has to resign. One rule forsome....Banker.

Edited June 26, 2021 by EtoileSportiveDeDerby

[Eddie]

1 hour ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

Good little article in the Times this morning about Matt wanderingcock who commented at the time about Neil Fergusson who went to see his lover in lockdown, Matt said he has to resign. One rule forsome....Banker.

Hancock's hypocritical shenanigans - Cummings lingers.

[sage]

Hancock has resigned 

[EtoileSportiveDeDerby]

5 minutes ago, sage said:

Hancock has resigned 

Still a banker

[Olton Ram]

7 minutes ago, sage said:

Hancock has resigned 

[RoyMac5]

 

[Archied]

1 hour ago, sage said:

Hancock has resigned 

Another total brainless boris guffaw, he comes out defends Hancock and the indefensible again showing him and his government s total lack of integrity, self awareness and double standards , then Hancock resigns ?, makes you wonder if any of them actually talk to each other ,,,,, total shambles springs to mind ??‍♂️
mind you maybe Hancock has Cummings type dirt to dish if he was pushed??‍♂️

Edited June 26, 2021 by Archied

[Bald Eagle's Barmy Army]

I’m glad Hancock has been caught, it might just make more people realise we are being conned. 

[Eddie]

2 hours ago, sage said:

Hancock has resigned 

He fell on his pork sword.

[Anag Ram]

Hancock replaced by Ray Wilkins lookalike.

[Tamworthram]

12 hours ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said:

I’m glad Hancock has been caught, it might just make more people realise we are being conned. 

Phew, what a relief. It seems that a senior politician failing to follow his own advice/rules, to add to the handful of other politicians etc, outweighs what appears to be overwhelming scientific and medical opinion and it’s not a global health crisis after all. All this time (was it last May he got caught?) I could have burned my mask and hugged strangers at will (normal rules on sexual harassment apply).

Forget about emails to MP’s about Derby’s battle with the EFL, we should all rise and share this breakthrough with the rest of the world.

 

[ariotofmyown]

5 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

Phew, what a relief. It seems that a senior politician failing to follow his own advice/rules, to add to the handful of other politicians etc, outweighs what appears to be overwhelming scientific and medical opinion and it’s not a global health crisis after all. All this time (was it last May he got caught?) I could have burned my mask and hugged strangers at will (normal rules on sexual harassment apply).

Forget about emails to MP’s about Derby’s battle with the EFL, we should all rise and share this breakthrough with the rest of the world.

 

Why has he resigned? His boss said the matter was closed.

[Tamworthram]

Just now, ariotofmyown said:

Why has he resigned? His boss said the matter was closed.

Because Boris is an idiot and should have sacked him. Doesn’t mean the whole crisis and lockdown restrictions are a con.

If you’re accepting Johnson’s judgement as a barometer of what is good v bad or right v wrong (which I don’t think you are) then I believe you are mistaken.

[angieram]

To get back on to corona virus, not many people have voted in Sage's latest jab poll BUT if reflective of the population it looks like about 88% will have the vaccine.

That should be enough for things to go back to normal?

Do we worry about the 12% who are refusing? There could be legitimate reasons, of course. Do we let them take their chances going forward? 

I don't personally know anyone who has refused, but I do know two people who suspect they have little immunity despite their two jabs because of serious underlying health conditions. They are both being very, very careful but their lives are seriously restricted. 

Interesting to know where people's thoughts are, and not just the usual suspects, as we already know those!

[Tamworthram]

1 minute ago, angieram said:

To get back on to corona virus, not many people have voted in Sage's latest jab poll BUT if reflective of the population it looks like about 88% will have the vaccine.

That should be enough for things to go back to normal?

Do we worry about the 12% who are refusing? There could be legitimate reasons, of course. Do we let them take their chances going forward? 

I don't personally know anyone who has refused, but I do know two people who suspect they have little immunity despite their two jabs because of serious underlying health conditions. They are both being very, very careful but their lives are seriously restricted. 

Interesting to know where people's thoughts are, and not just the usual suspects, as we already know those!

I agree. I only know of one person who refuses. I respect his views but strongly disagree with him. On a recent Teams call he said two things “carry on injecting chemicals into yourself” (I resisted the urge to enquire about what medication he takes or food he eat) and, being Welsh, he quoted the Manic street preachers and said “if you tolerate this your children will be next”. I did respond though by pointing out that both of my daughters, due to health reasons, had had their jabs long before I did.
 

I guess 90%ish might be the best we’re going to get especially, as you say, there are very valid reasons why some can’t or won’t have it. I’m not saying I agree but perhaps those that refuse to have the vaccination might just have to accept different restrictions even if this is just regular tests and evidence of being negative. I know having the vaccine doesn’t prevent you catching the virus or guarantee you can’t pass it on but I think medical opinion suggests there is lower risk of passing it on.

[JoetheRam]

Don't know anyone who hasn't had it and all of my friends and their partners are mid/late twenties.

Brothers are 18 and 16 and they'll be having it too when able.

Anyone who doesn't want it and is happy taking their chances, fine by me, their choice. I believe in free will.

All I hope is that they take personal responsibility, accept they've been silly to ignore medical advice and change their attitude to any future advice if they require hospital treatment. Oh, and accept that they are contributing to extending lockdowns.

[ariotofmyown]

8 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

I agree. I only know of one person who refuses. I respect his views but strongly disagree with him. On a recent Teams call he said two things “carry on injecting chemicals into yourself” (I resisted the urge to enquire about what medication he takes or food he eat) and, being Welsh, he quoted the Manic street preachers and said “if you tolerate this your children will be next”. I did respond though by pointing out that both of my daughters, due to health reasons, had had their jabs long before I did.
 

I guess 90%ish might be the best we’re going to get especially, as you say, there are very valid reasons why some can’t or won’t have it. I’m not saying I agree but perhaps those that refuse to have the vaccination might just have to accept different restrictions even if this is just regular tests and evidence of being negative. I know having the vaccine doesn’t prevent you catching the virus or guarantee you can’t pass it on but I think medical opinion suggests there is lower risk of passing it on.

What the Manics lyric a glib reference, or had he thought about it deeper and was suggesting that taking the vaccine was akin to not standing up to the Spanish Fascists in the 30s?

[maxjam]

29 minutes ago, angieram said:

To get back on to corona virus, not many people have voted in Sage's latest jab poll BUT if reflective of the population it looks like about 88% will have the vaccine.

That should be enough for things to go back to normal?

Do we worry about the 12% who are refusing? There could be legitimate reasons, of course. Do we let them take their chances going forward? 

I don't personally know anyone who has refused, but I do know two people who suspect they have little immunity despite their two jabs because of serious underlying health conditions. They are both being very, very careful but their lives are seriously restricted. 

Interesting to know where people's thoughts are, and not just the usual suspects, as we already know those!

Get back to normal. 

We have moved a long way from vaccinate the elderly and vulnerable.  

We have saved the NHS - even with rising infections, less than 1% of hospital beds are taken up due to covid.

The vast majority of those that remain unvaccinated will require minimal to no medical care if they catch covid, its time to start living again.

 

[Pearl Ram]

15 hours ago, Anag Ram said:

Hancock replaced by Ray Wilkins lookalike.

I would have said Uncle Fester meself, Ray Wilkins wasn’t a bad bloke and really shouldn’t be used a comparison to a politician. I can see where you’re coming from mind. ?