RadioactiveWaste Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: If nothing happens by Monday I hope the players and management downtools and force the issue. This just can't continue. If our employees weren't paid I wouldn't dream of expecting them to work. As sad as it'd be for DCFC, I also hope they take a stand, together. I would support them. They've been doing the good professional part of "we carry on and allow the process to work itself out" and at some point it's got to stop. I'm not saying Monday on any particular day, more that they should do it all together or not at all. Although, the two things to hear in mind, money isn't there,it's not like it's being hoarded and "regular" staff and so on have been paid, so it's not like they'd be doing it in solidarity with those in real hardship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: If nothing happens by Monday I hope the players and management downtools and force the issue. This just can't continue. If our employees weren't paid I wouldn't dream of expecting them to work. Who would that help? It wouldn't materialise the money out of thin air! But it might cause the club to be relegated - that would certainly affect their wages!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: If nothing happens by Monday I hope the players and management downtools and force the issue. This just can't continue. If our employees weren't paid I wouldn't dream of expecting them to work. I think more likely is that the more savvy members of the squad start making noises about breach of contract and claim that their contact is null and void so they are free agents. Which would be catastrophic for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I hope they don’t. Down tools - I think they realise what’s going on - covid world - no crowd - no income - potential for it to improve the whole football world of the EFL is ducked Oh ? Who else is not paying their players particularly in the championship ? Tomorrow is the 23rd of January yet we were told the takeover was hoped to be complete before Christmas. I’m calling BS from the sheikh and total bo****ks from Pearce our CEO, I didn’t come down with the last shower and I refuse to believe he knows duck all about what’s going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Who would that help? It wouldn't materialise the money out of thin air! But it might cause the club to be relegated - that would certainly affect their wages!!! Some lines shouldn't be crossed. This is one of them imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Some lines shouldn't be crossed. This is one of them imo. I don't think anyone is arguing that it's a line that shouldn't be crossed and is an appalling situation but, as @RoyMac5says, how would that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: I don't think anyone is arguing that it's a line that shouldn't be crossed and is an appalling situation but, as @RoyMac5says, how would that help? I think things have to come to a head. How long not bring paid is acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: I think things have to come to a head. How long not bring paid is acceptable? Yep, think you are right .. and as to how long .. my view is that pay is every 30 days. In extreme circumstances then 30 days is the line. I couldn’t criticise any player who said wooah .. I had some slack, some practicality, some tolerance but it is all used up now. Beyond 30 days and the line has been crossed. Being reasonable I’d give 7 day’s beyond that before actually acting but at that point ALL arrears must be cleared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: I think things have to come to a head. How long not bring paid is acceptable? If I was in their situation I think I would carry on playing (if it does get resolved but the club get deducted points you've not helped yourself). I'd probably give the club some sort of deadline and say after that I'd carry on playing still but say I want to be released (after which I'd sue for constructive dismissal or something). What none of us know is how much more the players have been told or if indeed they have, individually or collectively, given the club any sort of deadline. Not being paid for a week let alone this length of time isn't acceptable but the players are probably thinking about what is right for them and that might mean helping the club survive provided there is some sort of light at the end of a long tunnel. But, I agree, there has to be a limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_wilcockson Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 From what I can see it's a simple case of the players getting paid once the Holmes transfer goes through. They were obviously hoping for it to go through today (it still might tomorrow before the game). Once that goes through the funds are used to pay the players and exit embargo to get some loans in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: From what I can see it's a simple case of the players getting paid once the Holmes transfer goes through. They were obviously hoping for it to go through today (it still might tomorrow before the game). How much is the transfer and how much are the wages owed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Getting a bit silly now. There’s only so long the players will wait and once one starts to make demands then others will follow. I hope the Holmes money does cover it.......but for how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_wilcockson Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: How much is the transfer and how much are the wages owed? Transfer rumoured to be £1m, 50% of December wages + 100% January wages can't be too far off that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, r_wilcockson said: Transfer rumoured to be £1m, 50% of December wages + 100% January wages can't be too far off that? But transfers aren't normally paid all at once are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, r_wilcockson said: Transfer rumoured to be £1m, 50% of December wages + 100% January wages can't be too far off that? Assuming wages of £24m per year, we need £3m for December and January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Assuming wages of £24m per year, we need £3m for December and January So somewhere between 3 and 6 Dwayne Holmes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: How much is the transfer and how much are the wages owed? 7 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: Transfer rumoured to be £1m, 50% of December wages + 100% January wages can't be too far off that? 6 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Assuming wages of £24m per year, we need £3m for December and January 3 minutes ago, Rev said: So somewhere between 3 and 6 Dwayne Holmes? I'm thinking "perfect joke opportunity" I'm thinking "Something, something, a little short, something!" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: Transfer rumoured to be £1m, 50% of December wages + 100% January wages can't be too far off that? £1 mill is less than a months wages here. Going to have find some way to pay the rest of the season wages as well once we've sold Holmes. Hopefully we aren't going to be bringing anyone else in (unless they are volunteers working for free) before we can find said method of paying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodminRam Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Clubs are clever, they will probably wait till deadline day, hoping to get our players on a cheap, and with not being paid, im sure they will jump ship. that will leave us down to bare bones, skint and probably into administration with a points deduction either this or next season. I personally can see a hard troubled time ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 The whole situation is laughable. The club is a farce at the minute and the silence is deafening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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