Ellafella Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 13 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Because many assumed it would be easy to better him! There was context when Mac1 came in. Nigel Clough had spent 6 years turning a sinking ship around and painstakingly putting together a group of players who had been carefully selected not just on playing skills. Mac’s coaching added the spark but the Club was all set up. Mac’s ability to build a squad is not his strength. Getting players to play is. So, why not go for the same model again? Ie a Director of football with Mac in charge of coaching? That’s the same model that Clough (Brian) utilised. Taylor spotted the players and Clough made them play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ellafella said: There was context when Mac1 came in. Nigel Clough had spent 6 years turning a sinking ship around and painstakingly putting together a group of players who had been carefully selected not just on playing skills. Mac’s coaching added the spark but the Club was all set up. Mac’s ability to build a squad is not his strength. Getting players to play is. So, why not go for the same model again? Ie a Director of football with Mac in charge of coaching? That’s the same model that Clough (Brian) utilised. Taylor spotted the players and Clough made them play. I like this a lot ellafella,who would we hoope to bring in for the dof role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, jono said: Hughes is an interesting one but wherever he has done ok (I recall good spells and Blackburn and Stoke ? ) it has always been a slow burn. I can’t see it myself but it’s such a weird world anything could happen. I mean we might even trash Barnsley today ? Hughes....no thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 14 hours ago, Chester40 said: Who's Superman though? Ha, we're still waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: I like this a lot ellafella,who would we hoope to bring in for the dof role? Nigel Clough would be my first choice but that won’t happen. However, he is perfect for DoF. Not sure who else there is...there aren’t a lot of wise heads out there in football land. Where are the Jim Smiths? The Peter Taylors? Needs somebody with great connections in English Football who can judge a player. Do you @kash_a_ram_a_ding_donghave any ideas? Mick McCarthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellafella said: Nigel Clough would be my first choice but that won’t happen. However, he is perfect for DoF. Not sure who else there is...there aren’t a lot of wise heads out there in football land. Where are the Jim Smiths? The Peter Taylors? Needs somebody with great connections in English Football who can judge a player. Do you @kash_a_ram_a_ding_donghave any ideas? Mick McCarthy? Arsene Wenger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, AutoWindscreens said: Ha, we're still waiting Maybe he's still combing his hair, just wish he'd hitch a ride and sort things out.. Mark Hughes? Please God no. Miserable, dour, moaning, defensive, excuse-ridden, personality vacuum. To misquote Mourinho he is 'an expert in mediocrity'. Paul Cook has done well but isn't very glamorous and it would be a risky step up. Eddie Howe is a rung up from him, but somehow I can't really take to him to be honest. Safe-ish but uninspiring pair of hands. Jokanovic takes no prisoners and is successful at this level, so is the obvious choice. Benitez is a world class manager, anyone saying he is too defensive is really missing the point. Just wish the sale would go through and we can get some idea of what supermarket we are now shopping in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: I like this a lot ellafella,who would we hoope to bring in for the dof role? If we are going really top end (and it's a huge if) then Ralf Rangnick. would be my choice for a DofF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Arsene Wenger? Yes. Good call. I’ve been reading his stuff and he’s up there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: I watched plenty of great Mac 2 when he dragged us up the league that season Too true. Pity Mac 2 didn’t get the owner’s osupport Phil is getting. Guess sacking another manager is embarrassing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangwayD Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Cocu appears to be dead man walking, whatever happens, although not many managers excite me from the names branded. I'm too much in the dark with the potential new owners and if he genuinely has the funds, plus they are very much an unknown on what their intentions are. MM has made some huge mistakes during his tenure and has frittered away millions on very ordinary players, but I do feel somehow the club has/had more security under him, despite our brush with the EFL. I actually prefer a build with hidden gems (Marshall, Byrne etc.) and up and coming talent (Sibley, Buchanan etc) although feel we need a real solid championship central midfield leader to knit this together and we'd be fine. Throw in a powerful goal scorer and another centre half as we go and we'd be challenging top end no doubt. I'm assuming the new owners are going to come in and appoint a new coach and be throwing money around and overpay players to try and get us to the Premiership. We are probably one of a few clubs whereby this has never worked and I'm cut from the Cox and TBE teams, which we're built and came together to give us some fantastic times. Think Paul Cook is in the mould of the TBE and would probably be my choice based on Wigan's team last season and the run he had them on, but it won't happen. Cheers Gangway D from the terrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just on this subject; thought It was totally unprofessional for radio Derby to be talking about who the next manager was going to be on the talk in thing last night. But I expect nothing more from them these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Jokanovic jumped from a top flight job elsewhere to come to the championship before. Would be ideal if we could get him to do it again. David Wagner I don't know as well but would assume would be considered. Paul Cook under Mel would maybe have worked but also need to have an eye on where we're going to. I can't see anything other than Rooney as caretaker and failed attempts at enticing Wenger, Gerrard and Howe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 16 hours ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Not many were bothered when Mac2 ended on here. Speak for yourself. There were a lot of people disappointed that we got rid of him a second time. Even in his second spell we've only had one manager with a better record than McClaren since Billy Davies and that is Darren Wassall. Would have McClaren back in an instant for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 What don't we do something novel and pluck an unknown manager from relative obscurity who then is a success at the club rather then the hackneyed approach of acquiring a manager whose already done that. Apologies for mentioning Farke but also Wagner spring to mind. The list of "known" managers currently available is pretty uninspiring which is why an interim in Wassall may be a a good shout unless we have that much money to throw at it we are going to start paying out contracts of managers currently employed plus paying off Cocu simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I'm going for Will Hughes, as medical science improves Will, at the age of 55 becomes player manager at Derby having re-signed for them at the age of 35 and won 20 premier league trophies, 15 champions league , 18 fa cup and 16 amazon prime league cup trophies, retiring manager 'big' phil cocu said will will be an excellent replacement, and is sure he will build on his legacy having had a sticky start to his tenure as manager. Will is welcomed out to a capacity 300,000 crowd at pride park, while former local rivals Nottingham Forest welcome kilburn afc in a mid table central league Midlands thingy league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, GenBr said: Speak for yourself. There were a lot of people disappointed that we got rid of him a second time. Even in his second spell we've only had one manager with a better record than McClaren since Billy Davies and that is Darren Wassall. Would have McClaren back in an instant for me. There’s a poll to put up then by someone who knows how. Mac3, yes or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, GenBr said: Speak for yourself. There were a lot of people disappointed that we got rid of him a second time. But he deserved to go for laughing and joking whilst we burnt! #Melsego He saved us and then got kicked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: There’s a poll to put up then by someone who knows how. Mac3, yes or no. Noooo not another poll please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Noooo not another poll please Our 2 current Poles look quite useful ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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