GenBr Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I used to think Rooney was playing intentionally crap to get rid of Cocu, but unless he's trying to get rid of himself i'm not sure what his reason is now. Everytime the ball came anywhere near him it went straight to the opposition and he needs to practice his corner taking - so poor yet again. Rest of the team other than the young lads and Marshall looked poo as well. No idea why Sibley isn't starting games - him ,Knight and Whittaker only players trying to make something happen tonight. Lawrence and Joswiak both petulant and contributed nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyNutter Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Andicis said: Sibley literally had a couple of shots in the second half when he got on. I'm pretty sure the younger players are much braver than the senior ones are. Young players cares that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran Van Rams Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Never like bashing a single player but to see Rooney play a full 90 is a joke. He talks in the presser about being the guy who provides composure in the middle yet gives the ball away and can't lead a team out of a paper bag. We need speed and grit in the middle not his luxury cross field passes to forwards who are lacking any semblance of confidence. We need to remember we were playing a fairly good Boro side who are doing well. And we did have a couple of good chances. But to see someone picking himself (contract related or not) is sickening. I really want to know why he thinks he offers more than Bielik and Shinnie, and thinks he doesn't need to be taken off to change things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: Hearing Rosenior's interview on Radio Derby has made me even more annoyed. Trying to defend his ludicrous substitutions What did he say, I couldn't listen switched straight post-game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, eezzeetiger said: you lose either....you are down You'll be coming with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: Hearing Rosenior's interview on Radio Derby has made me even more annoyed. Trying to defend his ludicrous substitutions and then put a lot of focus on the 'outside noise' that him and rooney both fomented when they clearly thought cocu was being an idiot and they could cut their managerial teeth here is just out of this world. It should be Rooney facing the media. He wants the job so he should be up front dealing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: It should be Rooney facing the media. He wants the job so he should be up front dealing with it. Both of them are responsible for this mess in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam! Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 What I would do next game, we obviously struggle with scoring. Marshall (obviously) Byrne Davis Clarke Buchann Knight Bielik Shinnie Jozwiak Richards Lawrence(Ibe if fit) Subs: Holmes, Ibe(if fit), Waghorn, Big Mike, Wisdom, Rooney, Bird, Sibley, Fozzy, Whittaker Man leading the team: Mclaren Energy with Knight(who we know will give his all), Shinnie (again, isn't afraid), Bielik (confident CDM, our Eustace). The three forwards, aim to play off Richards layoffs/hold up play, I wish we had Martin. Davis experienced no nonsense CB. So many options on the bench to change it up while staying with the same formation, Sibley/Bird can come in for midfield. Waghorn, Ibe, Rooney for backup in attack. Big Mike and Wisdom, Fozzy in defence. The fact we are allowed 5 subs right now will be a major advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Leeds Ram said: Both of them are responsible for this mess in my book. Not Cocu then, he's escaped lightly. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Andicis said: But they're playing better than the seniors are? We don't have better or more disciplined senior players. Are best and most disciplined players are the young ones. You're just sticking to the cliches. Whether we have them or not we need them. Packing a team with under 23s will see us down as quick . it won't be lack of effort but 10 nineteen years olds can't do 46 games in this league . It's too tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What did he say, I couldn't listen switched straight post-game? On ‘added time ‘ just a little boy out of his depth on the verge of tears. The bloody obvious problem is we can’t score and are unlikely to do so until the transfer window opens. Hoping for a couple of draws v Coventry and wycombe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Whether we have them or not we need them. Packing a team with under 23s will see us down as quick . it won't be lack of effort but 10 nineteen years olds can't do 46 games in this league . It's too tough. Rubbish. Didn't Alan Hansen say something similar? Not saying we have as talented youngsters as them, but they absolutely are good enough to do it in this league, and over a large period of time, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, rammieib said: We need the new manager in before Saturday. Rooney will get his three ganes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, DerbyRam! said: What I would do next game, we obviously struggle with scoring. Marshall (obviously) Byrne Davis Clarke Buchann Knight Bielik Shinnie Jozwiak Richards Lawrence(Ibe if fit) Subs: Holmes, Ibe(if fit), Waghorn, Big Mike, Wisdom, Rooney, Bird, Sibley, Fozzy, Whittaker Man leading the team: Mclaren Energy with Knight(who we know will give his all), Shinnie (again, isn't afraid), Bielik (confident CDM, our Eustace). The three forwards, aim to play off Richards layoffs/hold up play, I wish we had Martin. Davis experienced no nonsense CB. So many options on the bench to change it up while staying with the same formation, Sibley/Bird can come in for midfield. Waghorn, Ibe, Rooney for backup in attack. Big Mike and Wisdom, Fozzy in defence. The fact we are allowed 5 subs right now will be a major advantage. Sibley has to play surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, Rampage said: Rooney will get his three games Well he didn't get this one, this was Rosenior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Andicis said: Rubbish. Didn't Alan Hansen say something similar? Not saying we have as talented youngsters as them, but they absolutely are good enough to do it in this league, and over a large period of time, too. No they are not, hence why we are bottom of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, BIllyD said: No they are not, hence why we are bottom of the league. Except, we've barely been using our young players this season. Hence why we're struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: Sibley has to play surely? Should have started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 We have been playing non scoring football for too long now so difficult to change the style and pattern of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, Silko said: Personally I feel you guys are hammering on at Rooney for the sake of ease and convenience Firstly it’s not his fault he has been bought into management under the wrong manager this is still Cocu all over what basis has he got to change everything in 1 or 2 matches If you think Shinnie is the solution to everything I’m sorry but have you been watching him .... bar one match you can’t tell me what type of footballer he is .... enforcer ... nope ... playmaker ..., nope .... driving force .... nope There is no one to rally round Lawrence ... everyone said he’d be our saviour once he was fit .... had these people not been watching the last 2-3 seasons he makes Tom Ince look busy .... the guy has at best 2-3 decent games a season Waghorn ... has no business being a lone striker far too lightweight doesn’t get his head up to look at the play going on around him Wisdom ... slow and cumbersome has the turning circle of an oil tanker continuously caught out Knight, Bird, Sibley, Buchanan show potential but they are all still just young lads learning what to do quite frankly in a system and style of play that suited no one Holmes Davies Clarke ... Mike the Dutchman Kazim Richards I wouldn’t notice most of the time if they were on the pitch or not Rooneys fault ????? ... maybe the guys not always helping but to single him out seems extremely unfair This is all one persons fault and that is Cocu and his dour doctrine and the transfer policy was absolutely terrible ( does anyone not recall last January’s transfer window as well when Cocu said he had some players in mind he wanted and ended up with no one) I stated early last season that this team were awful the only reason we didn’t get relegated was the Rooney factor in January but how far can an ageing star take a team Im not saying he’s been a shining light but he by far is not the only person to be blamed Oh well. Maybe we were operating under some form of transfer embargo. Maybe if Cocu wasn't having to drastically cut the wage budget. You don't think he wanted and tried to get a striker? Rooney is currently captain and manager. I saw nothing in his captaincy on the pitch since lockdown to suggest he has done anything to get this team going. His arrogance backed himself to do this job better than Cocu. Yet our best performance of the season came when Rooney was at home. All this crap about taking a few games to move on from Cocu. Mac1 managed to shift an entire mindset in one half time team talk. I said a few weeks ago, everything about Rooney at this club stinks. We have let celebrity bend us over and shaft us royally. We have thrown away a long term plan in search of fame. I am certain had he left us this summer, we would be much better placed. This is one big disaster from top to bottom. And I am fed up that we have once again found a way to shoot ourselves in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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