Woodypecker Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Nov / Dec...new owners, new manager. January....the transfer window! March / April....restricted crowds allowed back. May....finish above Forest (they falter, as we plod!) No wait - rewrite! I want a last-day Forest capitulation again, we all deserve it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Sad, but also have that bit of foolish excitement that maybe our next manager will be the one who turns us into a team that could challenge top 2. It's ok, I know it won't happen. Same here. I have already started thinking .. the players are good, just need the man with the right key to unlock all that potential.. and yet i know 10 games on we’ll be saying he’s too negative / not playing the right formation / round pegs in square holes / we need a decent XYZ player / idiot substitutions / no game management .... but maybe this time we won’t .. that little light bulb called hope .. it will click .. then we’ll get .. this was Cocu .. he blooded the youngsters, could spot a talent what a team, Maclaren got them performing but it was Clough that built it .. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What I don’t get is “the club will be making no further statement” twaddle, followed by a series of leaks to John Percy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 As others have mentioned its really sad to see him go, he faced everything that was thrown at him with dignity and (imo) ultimately failed due to an overwhelming number of factors beyond his control. Hope he succeeds elsewhere and that his successor has half as much class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kinder said: I feel really sad about this. I like Phil, Twan and Chris. They had the right long term plan and vision, but you can’t look past the results. Definitely the right move but I do feel for them, and Mel. I’d have loved it to work out. Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think the long term vision stuff was a cop out. It was to distract us from Mel's lack of investment, the reality is our squad has got worse year on year for a while now, and Mel put Cocu as the frontman for a long term vision to take the heat off until he could find a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I feel quite sad about this for two reasons. To sack a manager means we are not doing well and the manager has failed. I feel that the whole time Cocu has had at the club has been riddled with incident. In a way I bet Cocu is glad to be out of it all. Good luck for the future. It just wasn’t to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Dell own the Stadium. Is that what it means. Help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Pleased he’s gone , he ranks alongside Jewell,Newman and Addison as one of our poorest managers ,certainly since the early 60s.Now for someone who knows the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Rampage said: Dell own the Stadium. Is that what it means. Help. Presume it means there's a loan on the stadium - didn't we know this? Doesn't have to a big mortgage does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
England Ram Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 A sad day but ultimately a needed decision. Genuinely like the bloke a a wish him well. Sad that it didn’t work out for him. Hopefully the mutual consent saves us some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, jono said: Same here. I have already started thinking .. the players are good, just need the man with the right key to unlock all that potential.. and yet i know 10 games on we’ll be saying he’s too negative / not playing the right formation / round pegs in square holes / we need a decent XYZ player / idiot substitutions / no game management .... but maybe this time we won’t .. that little light bulb called hope .. it will click .. then we’ll get .. this was Cocu .. he blooded the youngsters, could spot a talent what a team, Maclaren got them performing but it was Clough that built it .. ??? McLaren to save us from relegation then new manager at end of season unless Steve has worked a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I’m not, if he’s no longer the owner. Fine with it whilst he’s in charge, not when he’s left. Why? What are the terms of the lease on the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Gutted. Think the club have made a mistake here. Long term thinking doesn't always get short term results. I'm convinced the team would not have gone down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 And the Derby county managerial merry-go-round goes on. New manager, new style, new players. How long do we give him? 3,, 6 months? Who will be the manager next season. No wonder we are in such dire straights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rampage said: Dell own the Stadium. Is that what it means. Help. No, there is a loan from Dell secured against the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Presume it means there's a loan on the stadium - didn't we know this? Doesn't have to a big mortgage does it. Was that the £15 million or the £80 million. I do not get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: No, there is a loan from Dell secured against the stadium. Probably £15 million then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 minute ago, BathRam72 said: And the Derby county managerial merry-go-round goes on. New manager, new style, new players. How long do we give him? 3,, 6 months? Who will be the manager next season. No wonder we are in such dire straights If fairness to Mel, he'd calmed down after the crazy first couple of years, with Rowett and Lampard not leaving because of Mel and Cocu being given as much time as really could have been given. But I totally get you on the "here we go again" with managers front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolleston Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Thank goodness he has gone, crazy to give him a four year contract, 50% of the team from the academy, another bonkers blue sky idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, Sith Happens said: Totally agree, if we appoint Joey Essex I'm done. I think @reverendo de duivel would prefer David Essex. He wants someone To Hold Me(him) Close now Twan has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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