Jubbs Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Black ('n' White) Sheep said: Bellingham to Dortmund deal as some sort of precedent Tbf, 40 odd games as a 16 year old was unheard of. He didn't look out of place. Also different positions, so comparing goals/assists is a bit useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Wolfie20 said: There you are - not too painful to post something positive was it? You should try it more often. I don't want to get embroiled in an argument about whether my posts are perceived as negative with you or anyone else quite frankly. I have the same right to post my opinions as you and everyone else on this forum and I respect that right. I wish other posters would also respect that right too in return then everyone could avoid unfortunate observations. I've posted my opinions a couple of times in this thread, if you disagree with them then absolutely come back and we can have that discourse. Instead you've chosen to pick on your own personal perception of me so is impossible even to have a coherent debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 No one in their right mind would sell Colin Todd! And then along came the Doc! No one in their right mind would dream of selling Louie Sibley! And then along comes L**ds! No No No, Nein nyet non! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Sparkle said: This whole extended transfer window between the EFL and the premiership is just designed to rape and pillage the EFL in the cheapest way ( unless you are Brentford) - I fear the worst and note the timing of the reported interest if we are forced to sell I honestly would want a guaranteed £20 million at least and not with potential add ons to get to that amount I truly rate the lad but we are vulnerable I don’t think it does? It surely inflated the price of EFL players as there is less supply for the buying clubs in the prem it also gives the EFL the chance to loan players in that might have gone to prem teams or abroad. All in all very positive for EFL! If we sell Sibley then it will be very circumstantial, we might get an inflated price and end up buying a couple players off the back of it that improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Would have to be £25m upfront + additional £5m with England cap + additional £5m first England goal. And two season loan back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 If you put aside the dislike/hatred/contempt for Leeds, objectively speaking, it’s a potentially fantastic move for Louie. Leeds are a big club and have a solid chance of re-establishing themselves in the PL and in general, it’s a great opportunity to work under Bielsa and to play in the PL. The likes of Meslier, Struijk, Poveda and a few others have all been given chances this season, so it shows there is a pathway for young players there. It’s disappointing for us, but this is where we are as a club. We just have to hope any potential deal gives us the shot in the arm we need to sign the players we are after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: It may be far more simplistic than that. We accept Leeds lowball offer as we are borassic and the money gets used to stave off administration. Alternatively we could be in a good place to demand a decent price as they can now only buy from Champ and below which restricts their options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Would have to be £25m upfront + additional £5m with England cap + additional £5m first England goal. And two season loan back to us. Seems reasonable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Ambitious said: We aren't even remotely close to breaking even so if it's not his money going into the club then the only other alternative is us going into administration, which makes the signing of Jozwiak (nevermind anyone else) even more bizarre. He's had to adhere to P&S regulations and obviously he wants the promotion payday, but until then he's paying for us to survive and he's still keeping us competitive - he's not asset stripped the club. The numbers I've calculated suggest we're very close to breakeven for this season - club level not group. That's taking into account the massive amount of cash the club are missing out on due to no fans attending matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, TomG said: Seems reasonable! Sell on clause too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, Uptherams said: Sell on clause too. Well that goes without saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Painful as it would be (and I'm not convinced there's anything in this story), we are a club who are having to rely more and more on bringing through young players from the academy then selling to allow us to strengthen other areas of the squad. If it has to happen then fair enough but we MUST NOT sell below realistic market value, otherwise we will (If we already don't) have a reputation for being easy to negotiate with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: The numbers I've calculated suggest we're very close to breakeven for this season - club level not group. That's taking into account the massive amount of cash the club are missing out on due to no fans attending matches. Rough calculations of mine point to the same. This depends on further signings on loan or free transfers however. As an example, Marshall was only on £12k a week at Wigan and was their biggest earner. Byrne sub £10k a week. Rumoured to have cost us £250k combined. I'd put our wage bill at down £75k per week over this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Rough calculations of mine point to the same. This depends on further signings on loan or free transfers however. As an example, Marshall was only on £12k a week at Wigan and was their biggest earner. Byrne sub £10k a week. Rumoured to have cost us £250k combined. I'd put our wage bill at down £75k per week over this summer. A claimed ITK person suggested to me the other day that now the old guard have departed, Marriott is our top earner at 15k per week. TBH regardless of ITK i have a feeling that there is more truth to this than us all thinking everyone is on 30k a week. It has to happen sooner or later. As to Louie .. i'd be so disappointed, he's going to be a real dynamic strike bomber of a player but if the price is right and the academy is going to continue to make good stuff then its part of life outside the mega clubs and the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, jono said: A claimed ITK person suggested to me the other day that now the old guard have departed, Marriott is our top earner at 15k per week. TBH regardless of ITK i have a feeling that there is more truth to this than us all thinking everyone is on 30k a week. It has to happen sooner or later. As to Louie .. i'd be so disappointed, he's going to be a real dynamic strike bomber of a player but if the price is right and the academy is going to continue to make good stuff then its part of life outside the mega clubs and the prem. Big mistake to sell so early because his value will double in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Rough calculations of mine point to the same. This depends on further signings on loan or free transfers however. As an example, Marshall was only on £12k a week at Wigan and was their biggest earner. Byrne sub £10k a week. Rumoured to have cost us £250k combined. I'd put our wage bill at down £75k per week over this summer. A saving of approx £3.75 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, Rampage said: A saving of approx £3.75 million Byrne took three minutes to transition to our team . Brilliant signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Without a huge offer, why would we sell? We've probably at the least broken even this window, he's our best young player and it's probably too late to bring in anyone else. It'd have to be a ridiculous offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Painful as it would be (and I'm not convinced there's anything in this story), we are a club who are having to rely more and more on bringing through young players from the academy then selling to allow us to strengthen other areas of the squad. If it has to happen then fair enough but we MUST NOT sell below realistic market value, otherwise we will (If we already don't) have a reputation for being easy to negotiate with. Last club in the world to sell Sibley to is ..... ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 "As for Cantwell and Sibley, Orta made no secret of the fact that they have been considered by his recruitment team. The YEP understands that Leeds' consideration of the latter has gone as far as making enquiries for the 19-year-old attacking midfielder, who scored a hat-trick against Leeds Under 23s last season and featured in the Championship game at Pride Park, but there are currently no plans in place to make a move before Friday's deadline." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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