Ambitious Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: If we want to go anywhere next season it's imperative that Evans and most importantly Forsyth are kept as far away from playing centre half as possible. If they're our only 4 CB options next season then we've got a problem. There's a reason we want Clarke back. We need at least a CB, Winger and a CF I’d be happy with three wingers/inside forwards. Evans has played his best football in a Derby shirt at CB, plus we have Dutch Mike, Wisdom, Davies and Buchanan. It would be good to get a CB in, of course, but we have Lawrence out wide that looks natural. The rest of the time we’re playing people out of position. Waghorn, Rooney, Marriott and Whittaker can manage for the one position upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I agree, but I’ve seen plenty of goalies struggle with it, particularly in terms of passing quickly enough. The amount of time Hamer dwelled on the ball last season made me have a fit at times. Marshall is obviously a much better goalie all round than Hamer mind, so hopefully he’ll be better in that department too. I do wonder whether the goalkeeper coach plays a major role as well though? On your second point, I hope you’re right. I’ve just lost a lot of faith in our recruitment team bringing in players suited to our style of play after some of our disastrous transfer dealings over the past few years. It’s enough to make you a little worried is all. That is my thinking, Hamer struggled with a lot of things Marshall should find totally comfortable ? I'd imagine Marshall will be stronger in almost every regard, passing out from the back included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Good signing ( when it happens), he is a good keeper with a lot of experience, I like this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, Andrew3000 said: Plumbing has changed? Yes mate, it's all push fit now. The blow torch is reserved for the creme brulee nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 According to John Percy, Marshall had his medical today and signing will be confirmed tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcreece1601 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Saffy van der Ram said: According to John Percy, Marshall had his medical today and signing will be confirmed tomorrow Someone has already posted a picture of that mate you're too slow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I’d be happy with three wingers/inside forwards. Evans has played his best football in a Derby shirt at CB, plus we have Dutch Mike, Wisdom, Davies and Buchanan. It would be good to get a CB in, of course, but we have Lawrence out wide that looks natural. The rest of the time we’re playing people out of position. Waghorn, Rooney, Marriott and Whittaker can manage for the one position upfront. Sorry mate. But I have to disagree with you here. Buchanan is a left back and whatever games he's played here has been at left back. To shift him to CB wouldn't be wise and something we shouldn't need to do. You could be 2 injuries away from having Davies and Buchanan as a CB pairing. Which would be pretty bad. Evans has played his best football at CB. Mainly because in midfield he's been bang average. He's not someone you want to have to play at CB. Plus I don't think he's been that good there. He's average at best. Davies can barely move anymore. What I'm saying is we need at least 3 good CBs next season. That you would be happy to play there and that wouldn't really make us any worse. Because we should be aiming for the top 6 (if we don't get a points deduction) in what is the weakest Championship for a while. Lawrence is not a natural winger for me at all. He drifts into the middle quite a lot. Doesn't hug the touchline. Rooney will be in midfield. Yes he could do a job upfront. But we've lost Martin. Who was joint top scorer. Whittaker is absolutely nowhere near ready to be starting games at this level. I'd like us to get a CF on loan and then look at loaning Whittaker out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, deanoakaram4life said: Fair play to Nixon if this comes off, spouts a lot of crap but got to this first. He seems to be correct about everything Wigan to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Do Wigan have anyone else that might help the cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Sorry mate. But I have to disagree with you here. Buchanan is a left back and whatever games he's played here has been at left back. To shift him to CB wouldn't be wise and something we shouldn't need to do. You could be 2 injuries away from having Davies and Buchanan as a CB pairing. Which would be pretty bad. Evans has played his best football at CB. Mainly because in midfield he's been bang average. He's not someone you want to have to play at CB. Plus I don't think he's been that good there. He's average at best. Davies can barely move anymore. What I'm saying is we need at least 3 good CBs next season. That you would be happy to play there and that wouldn't really make us any worse. Because we should be aiming for the top 6 (if we don't get a points deduction) in what is the weakest Championship for a while. Lawrence is not a natural winger for me at all. He drifts into the middle quite a lot. Doesn't hug the touchline. Rooney will be in midfield. Yes he could do a job upfront. But we've lost Martin. Who was joint top scorer. Whittaker is absolutely nowhere near ready to be starting games at this level. I'd like us to get a CF on loan and then look at loaning Whittaker out I think you’re being harsh on Evans. I’ve personally been impressed with him at centre back, far more so than Davies over the past 12-24 months. I don’t think he’s a centre midfielder anymore, more of a centre back that can play further forward. Bielik is in a similar mould, but I think Evans has shown more promise at centre back and Bielik more in CM. You’re probably right about Lawrence, but then that leaves Jozefzoon as our only natural winger in the club. I just think we need at least three and we can cover elsewhere. A CB would be don’t get me wrong, but I’d prefer to see three wide players in before anything else now. GK: Marshall, Roos and Ravas LB: Lowe, Forsyth, Buchanan and Malone RB: Bogle, Wisdom and Ebesole CB: Dutch Mike, Wisdom, Evans, Bielik and Davies CM: Rooney, Bird, Sibley, Knight, Holmes, Shinnie and Evans WF: Lawrence, Waghorn, Bennett, Whittaker and Jozefzoon ST: Waghorn, Marriott, Rooney, Whittaker and Hector-Ingram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Tick in the box for me. A solid Championship keeper that won't break the bank is an improvement on what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Ambitious said: I think you’re being harsh on Evans. I’ve personally been impressed with him at centre back, far more so than Davies over the past 12-24 months. I don’t think he’s a centre midfielder anymore, more of a centre back that can play further forward. Bielik is in a similar mould, but I think Evans has shown more promise at centre back and Bielik more in CM. You’re probably right about Lawrence, but then that leaves Jozefzoon as our only natural winger in the club. I just think we need at least three and we can cover elsewhere. A CB would be don’t get me wrong, but I’d prefer to see three wide players in before anything else now. GK: Marshall, Roos and Ravas LB: Lowe, Forsyth, Buchanan and Malone RB: Bogle, Wisdom and Ebesole CB: Dutch Mike, Wisdom, Evans, Bielik and Davies CM: Rooney, Bird, Sibley, Knight, Holmes, Shinnie and Evans WF: Lawrence, Waghorn, Bennett, Whittaker and Jozefzoon ST: Waghorn, Marriott, Rooney, Whittaker and Hector-Ingram I get your point mate. I don't think I'm being harsh on Evans at all. He's a bang average footballer. Yes he's done a steady job but nothing more. There's been games since we've come back where he's played at the back and he's barely found a man with a pass. If you put Clarke in that CB list instead of Evans then we're fine. We've got good options there. Midfield we've got plenty of options. Possibly a lack of creativity. But Holmes and Sibley should provide it so nothing urgent there. WF I agree with you. Jozefzoon is our only winger. Which is not good at all. I'm hoping by the grace of God we find someone stupid enough to buy him. Waghorn is better out wide for me. But like Lawrence he'll drift inside. Whittaker needs a loan away. I just don't think he's at the level needed to start games in the Championship. Getting a CF on loan would potentially allow him to go out and play a full season somewhere which would be good for his development. Bennett I don't want anywhere near this football club. Never completed 90 minutes and scored about 8 goals in 8 years. You don't want him as an option. We've lost our joint top scorer. We have to replace him. A loan is fine. 2 wingers to replace Jozefzoon and Bennett from that WF list. CF to replace Whittaker from that CF list and we'll look strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, deanoakaram4life said: Fair play to Nixon if this comes off, spouts a lot of crap but got to this first. Yeah well, throw enough poo at a wall.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 He is getting on a bit, but as long as he can still see the ball he’ll probably be an improvement on the other Fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Interesting signing. Definite mprovement on this seasons keepers. Nice that he's chosen us over benchwarming at WBA. Will add much needed experience to our backline, past his prime, but still will be a decent stopgap for a year or maybe 2. The question this puts in my head though is have we... 1) identified Marshall as a player who ticks all boxes and made him first choice, or 2) Deliberately gone for a low cost option out of necessity, and he fits that remit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: Yes mate, it's all push fit now. The blow torch is reserved for the creme brulee nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ambitious said: I’d be happy with three wingers/inside forwards. Evans has played his best football in a Derby shirt at CB, plus we have Dutch Mike, Wisdom, Davies and Buchanan. It would be good to get a CB in, of course, but we have Lawrence out wide that looks natural. The rest of the time we’re playing people out of position. Waghorn, Rooney, Marriott and Whittaker can manage for the one position upfront. Lawrence’s best work is centrally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Do Wigan have anyone else that might help the cause? Michael Jacobs is a fan favourite up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I think you’re being harsh on Evans. I’ve personally been impressed with him at centre back, far more so than Davies over the past 12-24 months. I don’t think he’s a centre midfielder anymore, more of a centre back that can play further forward. Bielik is in a similar mould, but I think Evans has shown more promise at centre back and Bielik more in CM. You’re probably right about Lawrence, but then that leaves Jozefzoon as our only natural winger in the club. I just think we need at least three and we can cover elsewhere. A CB would be don’t get me wrong, but I’d prefer to see three wide players in before anything else now. GK: Marshall, Roos and Ravas LB: Lowe, Forsyth, Buchanan and Malone RB: Bogle, Wisdom and Ebesole CB: Dutch Mike, Wisdom, Evans, Bielik and Davies CM: Rooney, Bird, Sibley, Knight, Holmes, Shinnie and Evans WF: Lawrence, Waghorn, Bennett, Whittaker and Jozefzoon ST: Waghorn, Marriott, Rooney, Whittaker and Hector-Ingram Don’t get this want of a winger who gets to the byline to stand balls up. We’ve not had a target man to score headers in close to 10 years at this point. We do need players who can beat a man, have a bit of pace about them, but within what role they do that, I don’t think it’s that important. Lawrence does do a lot of his best work either centrally or cutting in, but he struggles with the positioning side of things to get in the game when played in the middle - a bit like Ince did. Much easier to receive the ball in more space out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 A keepers been sorted ? The main thing it shows me is at least we are not under a transfer embargo! Genuinely thought we wasn’t signing anyone this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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