SaintRam Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: Who's going to be no 1? Marshall or Roos Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: Who's going to be no 1? Marshall or Roos Ravas will be number 1 and Marshall will be our first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagavulinram Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 exellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneyram Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 we need two goalies for a no1 spot.. sell roos and ravs not good enough ! marshall and lad from Charlton Athletic pushing each other for derbys number 1 shirt.. Lots of games now week week out due to convid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, stoneyram said: we need two goalies for a no1 spot. Even I think Roos is good enough for a bench spot. Not gonna get two top of the Championship standard keepers any time soon, or at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I'd be happy with roos to be honest he was excellent when he returned to the side at the end of last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Rab a dab doo said: The thought of what the tribunal may or may not do and the effect's of virus on football maybe just the sobering wake up call we have been needing. We are finally thinking logical as to what our team 'actually' needs 'within the parameter of what we can afford'. Hopefully no more scattergun signings of players with no idea of where their going to play or what system, on artificially inflated fees and long term contracts. We have in past we made too many noises about signing before they were in the 'bag' leading to us into an action where we actually lose our target or end paying way over odds for players. People have seen us coming from a mile of with pockets full of money and have happily relieved us of it, smiling all the way to the bank. We have finally seem to have learn't lesson, 'buy for the position you really need, negiogate without 'fanfare' and only disclose signings went they are completed. This was was perfectly done with Marshall signing. Well done to all involved. This is the bit I'm yet to be convinced by. It still feels a little to me like signing a known championship quantity without really thinking about whether they are a good fit. It's a road we've been down before plenty and we've even arguably done it with keepers before when we signed Carson whilst still having Grant. Carson was the better keeper in some respects than Grant but he really wasn't comfortable playing out from the back. In Lampards season it was not a surprise that when Roos was brought in our general play improved. With all that said by all accounts Marshall is a big a step up in a lot of areas over what we had last year and as far as I can tell he's never played in a team that's needed him to play out much. So I do hope his ability on the ball is good enough not to hinder what we are trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Ram Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 16 clean sheets last season for Wigan. That's 35% of their games where no goal conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Rammy03 said: Who's going to be no 1? Marshall or Roos Marshall > Rooney > Roos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, brady1993 said: This is the bit I'm yet to be convinced by. It still feels a little to me like signing a known championship quantity without really thinking about whether they are a good fit. It's a road we've been down before plenty and we've even arguably done it with keepers before when we signed Carson whilst still having Grant. Carson was the better keeper in some respects than Grant but he really wasn't comfortable playing out from the back. In Lampards season it was not a surprise that when Roos was brought in our general play improved. With all that said by all accounts Marshall is a big a step up in a lot of areas over what we had last year and as far as I can tell he's never played in a team that's needed him to play out much. So I do hope his ability on the ball is good enough not to hinder what we are trying to do. He’s much better than what we have simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, S8TY said: He’s much better than what we have simple as that I wouldn't go as far as much better. I'd be happy with roos. Fans are just quick to jump on him because of the mistake at Wembley and entirely blame him for our dreadful defending of corners in the first half of the season. Under Lampard we saw a fantastic keeper and never questioned his ability. I just don't get the Marshall signing as it's a complete contradiction to what we're trying to build under cocu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, S8TY said: He’s much better than what we have simple as that He might well be a better overall keeper than Roos but it's not exactly what I'm concerned about. People were saying similar things when we were brought back Shackell and he crippled our ability to play out from the back. In order to not hinder our way of planning the keeper needs to be comfortable receiving the ball and quickly finding another player. They don't need to be able to do anything too fancy but the bottom line is they need to be competent in possession or else it will cause problems. Can Marshall do that ? He's not known for it and he's not (as far as I can tell) had to do it previously. And that's what concerns me. I just can't help but feel with a bit better scouting we could have someone who would be a good step forward and a good fit. I really hope I'm wrong though, that he's been thoroughly scouted and that the scouts have identified he can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 It’s actually quite grim how much hate Roos gets, he’s a decent keeper and a more than adequate number 2, good at playing out from the back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Not for the first time, I find myself happy enough with a Derby signing that, really, I wish we'd made 2/3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: It’s actually quite grim how much hate Roos gets, he’s a decent keeper and a more than adequate number 2, good at playing out from the back too. I don't hate him. I just don't think he's good enough or ever will be good enough to be a Championship keeper. I'd rather us have a young keeper as our No.2 who can step in where required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nick_Ram said: I don't hate him. I just don't think he's good enough or ever will be good enough to be a Championship keeper. I'd rather us have a young keeper as our No.2 who can step in where required. Until the young keeper has to step in, makes a mistake and gets hung drawn and quartered on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Whoever at the club is in charge of developing players, get on the phone to Bucko at Burton. They're looking at getting a GK on loan for a season. Our Henrich could be just the guy they need. A year's experience at a good level to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Dhabi Ram Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Rammy03 said: I wouldn't go as far as much better. I'd be happy with roos. Fans are just quick to jump on him because of the mistake at Wembley and entirely blame him for our dreadful defending of corners in the first half of the season. Under Lampard we saw a fantastic keeper and never questioned his ability. I just don't get the Marshall signing as it's a complete contradiction to what we're trying to build under cocu. We need experience through the spine, he will provide that. The players in front of him, especially the full backs are inexperienced. If we sign a young cb and play Bielik, then this signing makes total sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hennessy Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Ticks a box for me. Now lets find a Winger and an extra CB please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, Abu Dhabi Ram said: We need experience through the spine, he will provide that. I agree we need more experience, but there needs to be that balance. Signing a player around the age of 25 would be ideal so we can have a team that grows and gets promoted together. I thought that was the point. We can't just have half the team under 20 and the other half over 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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