JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I’ve wanted to see Lawrence be given a go as a 9 for a while now, it only ever seems to happen when we need someone to press whilst we see a game out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: I’ve wanted to see Lawrence be given a go as a 9 for a while now, it only ever seems to happen when we need someone to press whilst we see a game out. Didnt Wales try him there for a game or 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Didnt Wales try him there for a game or 2? I think so, they were really poor games from memory because Wales try to shoehorn all of their decent players into the attacking areas so they all get in each others way and become quite ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 43 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: He does his best work from central areas his biggest asset is That he can go either way and has a rocket of a shot crossing is average, decision making with the ball is average, but give him a sight of goal and not he can hit it, that one he hit at Swansea is still travelling lol. he’s kinda like vydra in that he’s better running At goal with the ball Centrally than trying to play with his back to it or trying to work something from our wide. Yes. Sibley v Lawrence for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Where would you play him? Where he has been playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: I think that is where he will need to play as I think the Rooney/Bird partnership in midfield is just too slow and immobile ? I agree mate if bielik is fit I think rooney will even play even less this season to concentrate on the coaching side.bird will captain the side and I think you may even see bird played slightly more forward than bielik.max has a great eye for a pass and I think it will be used.rooney will play either up top or rotate with sibley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandram Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 What has this got to do with a Matt Clarke thread perhaps mods could stop people just ruining threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, islandram said: What has this got to do with a Matt Clarke thread... It's background noise while we wait something to actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, islandram said: What has this got to do with a Matt Clarke thread perhaps mods could stop people just ruining threads Sorry dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Well I’ve been in B&Q all day, do you think he might keep last years patio set? I’m sick of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, islandram said: What has this got to do with a Matt Clarke thread perhaps mods could stop people just ruining threads National mod holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, SaintRam said: National mod holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 13 hours ago, Marriott Ram99 said: I can't see us playing 5 ATB for 3 reasons 1. Lawrence is one of our key players and highest earners and wouldn't fit in to a 532 or 5212 as he wouldn't play striker or CM or start over Sibley behind the stikers. 2. We have a lot of midfielders and a lot of holding ones like Shinnie ,Bielik and Bird and 5ATB doesn't utilise them properly. 3. Bogle is good enough to play as wing back but none of our left backs can be relied upon to have the attacking ability to carry the left hand side of our attack and unlock defences with quality play which you need when you play without wingers. We will play a 4231 with something like this: Marshall Bogle Ter Wierik Clarke/Panzo Lowe/Panzo Rooney Bird New Sibley Lawrence Waghorn One way it could work is more of a 5-4-1. Marshall Wisdom Te Wierik Clarke Bogle Lowe Rooney Bird Sibley Lawrence Waghorn With that front 3 they would all be able to swap positions during the game. Or even change to Waggy and Lawrence up front and Sibley just behind. Add in Marriott, Holmes, Bielik, Shinnie, Fozzy etc when rotating/as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 9 hours ago, rynny said: One way it could work is more of a 5-4-1. Marshall Wisdom Te Wierik Clarke Bogle Lowe Rooney Bird Sibley Lawrence Waghorn With that front 3 they would all be able to swap positions during the game. Or even change to Waggy and Lawrence up front and Sibley just behind. Add in Marriott, Holmes, Bielik, Shinnie, Fozzy etc when rotating/as needed. I like this a lot. But I'd have Marriott up front over Waghorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 9 hours ago, rynny said: One way it could work is more of a 5-4-1. Marshall Wisdom Te Wierik Clarke Bogle Lowe Rooney Bird Sibley Lawrence Waghorn With that front 3 they would all be able to swap positions during the game. Or even change to Waggy and Lawrence up front and Sibley just behind. Add in Marriott, Holmes, Bielik, Shinnie, Fozzy etc when rotating/as needed. There would be so much sideways and backwards football it would be painful. The fans would complain within 45 minutes. You are in essence taking a front three player from last year and putting a defender on the pitch. Our full backs already could attack, no need to convert them to wing backs. Imagine, Rooney drops deep to get the ball and he has two centre backs one side of him and the other centre back the other side. Bird will be 20 feet diagonally away from him. It would be horrendous. I desperately want to keep attacking players on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, rammieib said: There would be so much sideways and backwards football it would be painful. The fans would complain within 45 minutes. You are in essence taking a front three player from last year and putting a defender on the pitch. Our full backs already could attack, no need to convert them to wing backs. Imagine, Rooney drops deep to get the ball and he has two centre backs one side of him and the other centre back the other side. Bird will be 20 feet diagonally away from him. It would be horrendous. I desperately want to keep attacking players on the pitch. I disagree. With Bogle and Lowe as wing backs, when we're in possession they would provide the width we currently don't have. I'd look at it as giving added cover without the ball and more attacking threat with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Derby have found most success in recent years by passing the ball quickly and skilfully to create chances. In order to do that, you need technically-proficient players throughout your team. Picking five defenders is like admitting you are nervous with four. I want us to have a midfield and forwards whose attitude is ‘we can score more than you’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: I disagree. With Bogle and Lowe as wing backs, when we're in possession they would provide the width we currently don't have. I'd look at it as giving added cover without the ball and more attacking threat with it. Lowe would have to learn how to cross the ball if he plays wing back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Derby have found most success in recent years by passing the ball quickly and skilfully to create chances. In order to do that, you need technically-proficient players throughout your team. Picking five defenders is like admitting you are nervous with four. I want us to have a midfield and forwards whose attitude is ‘we can score more than you’. We scored a few under Jim Smith with 5 defenders on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Derby have found most success in recent years by passing the ball quickly and skilfully to create chances. In order to do that, you need technically-proficient players throughout your team. Picking five defenders is like admitting you are nervous with four. I want us to have a midfield and forwards whose attitude is ‘we can score more than you’. It's not really 5 defenders, though, is it? It's 3. The wing backs are essentially attacking players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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