DarkFruitsRam7 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Will Hughes Hair said: Just please tell me you're related to @DarkFruitsRam7 ? Scrumpy is too manly for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 hours ago, RedSox said: Personally, I couldn't give a cack how much effort he puts into training, as long as he scores goals on matchdays. A bit naive maybe, but he's a born predator and sometimes, you need to think outside the box to get the best from a mercurial talent like him. Agreed . I really don't get this thing about Marriott lacking application . When he play's he's the hardest working player on the pitch, that's all I care about . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 hours ago, ThePrisoner said: We’re dangerously teetering into Forest’s “living in the past” mentality with Chris Martin. Not at all. One discussion is about events that occurred before half the forum were even born, the other is about a current employee of Derby County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Surely will be given a lifeline by the new head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake the ram Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Chris Martin as had it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, jake the ram said: Chris Martin as had it The golden touch? Yes,he certainly 'ad' that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: The golden touch? Yes,he certainly 'ad' that You mocked the word he didn't typo ? Or typo'd while mocking a typo ?♂️ Classic. ON topic, while I think Martin's chances of a triumphant return are limited, I see little sense in aggressively writing him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, SaintRam said: You mocked the word he didn't typo ? Or typo'd while mocking a typo ?♂️ Classic. ON topic, while I think Martin's chances of a triumphant return are limited, I see little sense in aggressively writing him off. Agree. He has more chance than Thorne who some are suggesting as a starter next season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I would like to clarify,Martin is not a diver. He is a faller overer,2 different things. He’s an expert at falling over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 It depends what his wages are as well. I imagine he’d be one of the bigger earners in the squad. We might be looking to cut down on wages I.e like with Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, McLovin said: It depends what his wages are as well. I imagine he’d be one of the bigger earners in the squad. We might be looking to cut down on wages I.e like with Johnson Only if the wage earners are ineffective...they start scoring and providing goals and they become priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, SaintRam said: You mocked the word he didn't typo ? Or typo'd while mocking a typo ?♂️ Classic. ON topic, while I think Martin's chances of a triumphant return are limited, I see little sense in aggressively writing him off. I hoped someone would spot the twist. And..yes,let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Van Cone De Head said: I would like to clarify,Martin is not a diver. He is a faller overer,2 different things. He’s an expert at falling over. I feel head over heels for him a long time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 If we add all the Chris Martin threads together, are they longer than the George Thorne one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Coconut said: Let's be honest neither Martyn or Martin are particular useful when it comes to winning headers between the boxes. Play the ball head height or above to either of them, expecially with their back to goal, and they'll both lose out to the opposition a lot more than they win. Play the ball at chest height and you're far more likely to get something out of Martin than you are Waghorn. Martin definitely has (or rather had) the edge on Waghorn for holding off the opposition and winning free kicks. Waghorn doesn't 'play the defender' as much and his control can go from the sublime to the ball bouncing 7 foot in the air. They're both quite useful in our own box at set pieces as the front post man, or as the first man about 8 yards out when they're not competing against anyone to win the header and not being marked. Between the boxes, as above. In the opposition box from set pieces, neither are great. In the opposition box from open play / crosses Waghorn has the edge. His actual heading ability (not the same as the ability to win a header) is superior to Martin's IMO, as shown by the quality of some of his goals last season, most notably against WBA. Good and fair analysis, between chest and foot I'd always back Martin to make more of a long pass than Waghorn, as long as he has players around him to ship it onto, he really doesn't take the ball in and hold it, just uses his technical ability to lay it off for a pass, I've often thought he can pass it with his chest better than some others pass it with their feet! It really is last chance saloon for him, in many ways Cocu should be the ideal manager for him, if he can't make an impression now he never will. If he doesn't make it through, I will always remember him fondly, and accept the way we play the game has moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Common sense would suggest that everyone on the books would have a clean slate. However, it's likely that info and profiles will be passed down. I doubt it's been solely the policy of successive managers to send the likes of Martin out on loan. I'd be very surprised if Cocu approached things differently. I like Martin, I think he could still be a great player for us. However, I expect too much water has passed under the bridge and he'll be sent out on loan before being released on a free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 As we don't have any proper wingers, let's just play with three strikers and go direct football. Waggy, Martin and Marriott all up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I love Chrissy Martin. Hope he gets a chance in the new regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley72 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I’ve got mixed feelings about Martin, his scoring record for his time with us up until Pearson came in was impressive. Since 2016, wherever he’s been he’s not exactly been prolific, maybe that has been more how teams have been set up and he’s not had the service that he needs to be a top goal scorer. It would be interesting to see whether, with a 4-3-3 he can still do a job for us at 30 years old, but I wonder whether it’s a risk too far for Cocu and we’ll see him head out the door... maybe it’s time to move on and look at younger legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, muttley72 said: It would be interesting to see whether, with a 4-3-3 he can still do a job for us at 30 years old, but I wonder whether it’s a risk too far for Cocu and we’ll see him head out the door... maybe it’s time to move on and look at younger legs. What, like Waghorn (29)?! ? If Martin is fit and over his illness so that he can play 90 minutes, then there is no reason he can't be the same intelligent footballer that he was pre the Mac2 debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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