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There's a difference between the way in which it was explained being wrong and it actually being wrong.

So I think it's not really in dispute that our explanations were less than clear. And for that we're rightly (IMHO) punished.

But then, the separate point is whether that accounting treatment is WRONG as opposed to just not what EFL would like. There is a lot of evidence that it isn't wrong from an accounting practice, although our implementation of it may have been poor as we apparently couldn't show any systematic approach to valuations.

So, moving on to the EFL position: it isn't unreasonable, because the purpose of their rules is to ensure everyone is judged by the same criteria. If we had clearly explained what we were doing, they might have been able to say "OK, it's not against the rules, but that's not what we intended. We're going to amend the rules for next year".
We can argue that the EFL should have checked our submission, but they'd only have cause to do that if we had actually given them a reason to do so. Otherwise there is an element of trust in place.
 
In short, we tried to be too clever, and while there is nothing accounting wise that is wrong, in a competition that is trying to create a level playing field we stretched things too far and didn't signpost it well enough.
I don't think either party is coming out of this too well.

A good, well reasoned post. It’s unlikely to be noticed.

I'm sure you 'got it' before the EFL because it's your club and you're all over the numbers. Quite a different question is whether the EFL has the responsibility or the manpower to check the methodology underlying the numbers (which are presumably pulled from the audited accounts). I don't know the answer to that question 

I’ll swear I edited that within 10 seconds  ?

Think that is the precedent others are alluding to to say Wycombe have no chance if they do. Where would it end ? I would be suing Denis Smith for crocking Charlie George just before that cup semi and Jack Taylor for wrongly disallowing Dave Nish’s goal in the Semi Final. Not that I haven’t let that go or anything ?‍?

Wycombe or Middlesbrough? 

I’m only 29 and been a fan for 25 years so... no, no I can’t. ?‍♂️

Oooooo cutting ?

I've never lost a game of championship football. I am undefeated in my managerial career.

I’m in, I think this is a great idea 

Not sure why you would panic. 
We are at the low point already, poor manager, threadbare squad, youngsters and senior pros not yet signed up to new deals, worst run of results in the pro divisions, owner who wants out, no budget.
The only way is up from here, if any of the above improve then that’s a good thing.....at least that’s how I’m trying to look at it!

Yea, need to reduce our bloated squad…

I sometimes wonder if you actually know anything about football at all!
So that's five players totally out of position... six if you count New, who has only played there 3 times in his entire career, and he's been a pro for 18 years!
I know this is Derby County, and I know this is Wayne Rooney, but even they wouldn't be so useless as to put that bloody team out!
... Having said that, I do like the idea of New playing wide left.  Now that does excite me!  

Each day I add new things to my list of 'things I didn't know until today'.
Yesterday I learnt that Fathers Day was only for Dads to celebrate.

is that from the scene in Fantasia ?

True.

Lets hope another team take a punt on him (like Sheff Weds did!) and he gets another start and we free up his wages. I can't see it working for him here (or the Wendies, lol).

Wasn't it reported that Whittaker was on the end of racist abuse online from Derby fan(s) after the goal celebration? I don't think any level of goal celebration is deserving of that. Or any abuse in fact.
I have no issue with a former player celebrating a goal against us, it would annoy me if we had a player who scored against a former club and didn't celebrate.
 

To be fair to him, the Derby memorabilia would have been worth more money than the Forest tat. No point trying to sell something that's worth sweet fa.

I think we should get Warburton in as manager

Err no, lets not. Why did he have so many substitute appearances rather than starting btw?!
Gregory scored "...three goals in his 11 appearances (six starts), including two in his last two."
So by your reckoning: that's 3 goals in 7 starts.

Which has been the frustrating part with him but it seems like treading in treacle 

It might only be a pipe dream but I feel like these three keep getting completely forgotten at the minute by Derby fans (myself included)
If we can - somehow, anyhow - get them fit and firing and somewhere back to their best, the squad will already look much much better before any transfers are even done. ?

The day Maguire just comes out and admits he is a Derby fan will be a good one for him. Finally able to live with himself after hiding it for so long.

Well done Brentford - a thoroughly deserved promotion. Good to see a properly run club get their reward.