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    Wiegman - managing the England men's team

    in Football Forum

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    Not a chance.

    If some people are saying the Derby job is too big for Paul Warne, anyone thinking we can parachute a female manager into the top England job with no experience in mens football is living in cloud cuckoo land.  The first indifferent result and she'd be under intense pressure.

    If she comes into the mens game though and does well at a high level, then there is a conversation to be had.

    Summer Rumour Mill

    in Derby County Forum

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    21 minutes ago, r4derby said:

    And what you’ve done is look for opportunities to argue. I think he prioritised defenders to fit his 3/5 at the back. He said he wanted to, we needed to. And we did. I’m happy enough with the players he got in.

    However, that means he didn’t prioritise a striker.

    Warne was having conversations with McGoldrick as soon as the season ended. He’s said as much. He also intimated that he was aware of McG’s desire to return home. So that tells us that he could have started planning then. That’s June. 2 months ago.

    I'm glad he got defenders he wanted. I understand that the striker market is slow/empty/whatever you want to call it. But you can’t tell me he didn’t focus on the defence over the attack.

    Also worth adding I appreciate any and all money that Clowes puts into the club. I’m simply sharing my frustration. Not sure I need your input, as I’m not demanding anything other than a chance to vent. Which is what the forum is.

    I'm pretty sure that Warne and the Recruitment Staff are capable are focussing on more than one target at a time.

    The fact we haven't got a striker in yet and the rumours that Billy Sharpe is now considering a move to the US as more money is on offer highlights our predicament - we haven't got 500k to splash on a striker and what few strikers that have moved for nominal fees have probably had better offers (financially and/or locationally) elsewhere.

    Just because we haven't got one in yet, doesn't mean we haven't put  as much effort into it as recruiting for other positions.

    In defence of Paul Warne.

    in Derby County Forum

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    Well said @Rev

    We're still under EFL restrictions and we're still turning the ship around.  Its gonna take time and there are gonna be ups and downs along the way. 

    I think both David Clowes and Paul Warne (and his staff) are honourable men and will get it right if given enough time, some of the comments I've read on the forums this week have been borderline delusional. 

    It's sad that modern day society demands instant success whilst conveniently ignoring where we've come from and the strides we've made.  Yeah recent results and performances haven't been great - and no one knows that more than Warne himself, but turning on the manager and booing the players 135 minutes into a season isn't helping. 

    Warne's said we need players in, the transfer window is still open and they are working around the clock to bring the right people in - our squad may look a lot different in a few weeks time.  Whether we can afford the players we want/need however is another matter, beyond Clowes/Warnes control and a legacy of Mel Morris tenure and the EFL. 

    Sacking a proven manager at this level not even a year into a 4 year deal, whilst we're still hamstrung by the EFL would set alarm bells off imho - shades of Mel Morris hiring and firing culture.  Paul Warne has been bought into a club on its knees, tasked with rebuilding it from top to bottom and getting us promotion.  Whilst we would all like the progress graph to be a nice, smooth upward curve, real life is rarely that simple.  A kneejerk reaction from the club now would set us back further than we already are.

    COYR

    Money

    in Derby County Forum

    Posted

    42 minutes ago, Jayram said:

    Yes, patience is a virtue but this is football we’re talking about. If the business plan is to sell our best prospects and replace them with players bought for nominal fees year in year out to keep within budget fan interest will dwindle as will club revenue and we’ll be stuck down here for years. 

    We've barely got any prospects to sell because the academy has been pillaged. 

    Our 2 best current players under 25 are in the final year of their contracts iirc. 

    We were under a strict embargo last season and haven't got piles o'cash to buy enough players of quality to put together the kinda squad that fans think we should be doing this season - yes we could probably be doing more to unearth gems, but when the squad consists of 5 players before you start, you've gotta get everyone of them right.  The approach has understandably been to try an coax another season or two out of established pro's (that have typically all been promoted before)

    I don't think people realise how bad a state MM left us in.  We simply can't spend £1m on a striker that will fire us to the Championship, we've had to spend whatever money we've got on filling multiple positions and the academy and tbh I think we've done a pretty good job. 

    We just missed out on the playoffs at the first attempt last season and are many peoples favourites this year.  Losing to Wigan yesterday was disappointing but a different day might have seen us win 2-0 - its not panic stations just yet.  If we manage to bring in a pacey #9 and #10 and maybe another player or two by the end of the transfer window the squad will look a lot different.  If not, it won't be because PW doesn't think we need them, it will be because MMs legacy and the finances won't allow it.

    Money

    in Derby County Forum

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, Jayram said:

    There has to be some ambition and that requires spending some decent money on the standard of player who will make a difference, starting now if possible.

    What if, as a now sustainable club, we haven't got 'decent money' to splash out anymore?

    And even if we did, following years of having our academy pillaged and losing players to pay the bills, any money we had has been needed to fund around 10 players a season. 

    Since exiting administration we've been playing catchup every summer, we haven't been in a position to drop £500k-£1m on a player that will make the difference come May, we're spreading it around the entire team.  If you look at some big teams that have escaped Lg1 in recent years, they had been down here a longer than us, started from a better position than us and still took their time to get promoted. 

    We may not like it, but patience is a virtue.

    Money

    in Derby County Forum

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    I think those days are well and truly behind us, even GSE propped up the club with £millions every season to keep us afloat.  We only started challenging regularly at the top of the Championship when MM decided to risk our very existence.

    I know money doesn't guarantee success, but it is a good indicator of who will usually be competing at the top and the bottom of a division.  Assuming the fans keep turning up in numbers we'll always be a big team in Lg1 and once the final EFL restrictions have been lifted, we'll hopefully put that to good use.  Whether its this season or not, without trying to sound too arrogant it will only be a matter of time before we return to the Championship. 

    Given our new sustainable philosophy, lets enjoy being a big fish in a small pond whilst it lasts and not have a meltdown over every result as we continue to find our way back after near bankruptcy - whilst a lot can obviously change, competing in the Championship under sustainable ownership imho won't see us flirt with the playoffs on a regular basis, the next few seasons might be the best we have for a while.

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