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On 02/11/2023 at 08:59, Sufferingfool said:

Growing up in Essex in the 70’s a nice pair of thruppenny bits meant something else entirely🤔

yep its always been the "two bob bits" for as long as I remember ...thrupenny's is quite a different thing lol 🤣

Sunday 5th November 

  Mornflake Stadium  ( Gresty Road ) 14:45 KO

Opponents    Crewe Alexandra - 5th in League 2

Played 16          W 8        D5      L3         GF 35    GA 25       PTS  29

Current Form 

A Harrogate   W  1-0

H Stockport County   L 0-2

A Crawley Town  W   4-2

H  Tranmere Rovers   W 2-0

H Wrexham   L 0-3   (  EFL Trophy )

A Salford City   A    L    2-4

Top Goalscorer - Chris Long - 7 Goals 

 

So after what I thought was our best performance of the season against Northampton Town we move on to the 1st round of the FA Cup and an away tie at league 2 Crewe Alexandra 

This is no doubt a potential banana skin as Crewe are currently 5th in L2 and also  the current top goalscorers in L2 with 35 Goals, on the flip side of that though they have also conceded 25 goals 

In 8 Home games Crewe have only lost once so could be a tricky opponent and I certainly think Derby cannot take this game for granted as Crewe would see us as big scalp

Saying that if we play like we've seen in patches we should have too much for them and will be interesting to see the line up with maybe Vickers getting a chance and maybe a few other changes.

For me though I'd like to see us go with the same team that played so well especially in the first half against the Cobblers meaning Sonny Bradley deservedly keeping his place meaning Cash will be on the bench 

Expecting a tough game here and our vociferous support will help us get over the line in this one I think and also  believe a strong start and scoring the first goal  will be crucial 

Crewe traditionally try and play football so I hope we also try to do the same and a cup run would be great for us both financially and from a supporters POV

I'm at work Sunday so can't go but wish for a  safe trip to all Rams fans travelling and hope we are in the hat for the second round draw

COYR 

 

 

46 minutes ago, angieram said:

@S8TY is still doing their research! 

Match thread is out tomorrow folks 

apologies if that is a bit late for some if I get finished early at work it might be tonight …I have this very strong feeilng this is our big unbeaten run 😃 and yes @angieram a bit of research will be added 👍🏻

Still a good player hope he stays plus better than some  give him credit for ….would get into any team in L1…

When Collins came on last night the ball was passed to Wilson or Ward I can’t remember who was in the rwb position few yards into there half …Collins turned and run into the area …encouraging an aimless punt into the box …Washington mixed it up and came short drawing defenders with him and occasionally looked for a longer ball 

On last nights performance Washington has more variation to his game therefore starts ahead of Collins ….no brainer 

7 hours ago, Comrade 86 said:

You've got to do 'em all mate. No good trying to escape now. That's you until the end of the season and you'd best not let us down.

I‘m on it mate I predicted 4-0 at work and this is the start of the run 👍🏻

Regarding match thread 🤔 

I did say this is the start of a long unbeaten run lol

do I just do the league match days ? As happy if someone else wants to do the cup games but will go with the unwritten rule 

This is where our season starts ..keep playing like last night please as any loss will not then seem like a disaster 👍🏻

6 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said:

Where has this been? Much improved playing it on the floor and excellent movement off the ball. Washington led the line well and Bird and our 2 wide players were a real handful. Northampton were probably the worst team I’ve seen at Pride park though but still a good performance.

Yes Washington drops off his marker at times and comes for the ball to feet and at other times is prepared to stretch there back line in behind 

his finish was excellent last night and I really think give this line up the chance to keep the shirt including. Cashin 

I’ll probably get pelters for this but sometimes Cash has to make last ditch blocks and tackles etc but there are times it’s because he has not been in correct position to start with ….still a good player but if he’s going I’d give Bradley the chance now to keep the shirt ….would be unfair now to drop Bradley after a good performance and he’s waited long enough for a full game 

Would like to see Bradley keep his place now same back 4 next game please 

in fact same line up …play well you keep your place …👍🏻

Much better performance and not just lumping it into the box

Sonny Bradley has played well and steady and is good at passing into feet …(I actually don’t like it when Cashin constantly plays the diagonal long ball )

Washington has been really good and a mention for Hourihane …it is him dropping into the back at times which is allowing the forward movement of others 

best performance of season so far for me but I now want to see us do it again this half ….don’t go long …keep doing what’s been successful …we could easily get lazy and start long balls into the box and channels but let’s see us control the half and maybe add another 

well done Warne and players much better 👏🏻 

Tuesday 31st October

Pride Park Stadium Kick Off 19:45

Opponents    Northampton Town  ( 20th )

Played 14          W 4         D2      L8         GF 15    GA 17       PTS  14

Current Form 

A Bristol Rovers    L   1-2

H Leyton Orient    D   2-2

A Bolton Wanderers  L   1-2

A Shrewsbury Town   L  0-1

H Reading   W   3-1

A Exeter City  W 2-0

Top Goalscorer - Sam Hoskins - 8 Goals 

 

My first attempt at a Match Day Thread and we go into this important game in hand on the back of a disappointing result and performance away to the mighty Stevenage where it seems Mr Evans done a proper job on us .

This has now become a must win game for many and in some ways we couldn't have picked better opponents as the Cobblers are on a poor run of form failing to win in there last 4 League 1 outings.

There Top Scorer Sam Hoskins looks the most obvious threat currently on 8 Goals which is a good return barring in mind that the Cobblers are sitting 20th and just outside of the drop Zone

I'm personally hoping we really go for it in this one and as far as know only Waggy is definitely missing together with long term absentee TJJ 

Don't know what to expect line up wise but with Ward now back could we possibly go with Warne's preferred 3-5-2 with Nyambe ( who's looked very good ) switching to RCB and Ward coming in at RWB

A big game in many ways and 3 points is a must really  and a good  confidence building performance would be nice and propel us back up to touching distance of the play offs  

This is where our run begins so get used to my MD Threads  ( Big Crossing of Fingers ) 

 

COYR - 3 points please 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, oodledoodle said:

How many other competent players did we miss out on based on Warne making up a personality for them? We'll never know, but as that's how he's admitted to approach recruitment, it's just a farce.

also I don't think Warne would've signed NML as remember someone saying he had a chequered past 

I do believe team spirit and good personalities in the changing room are important but I've also played myself in teams where there were players who were not as sociable as others and kept themselves to themselves  but were very good players  and done the job on the pitch.

As far as recruitment goes lets be honest here Rosenior signed some top players for this level , players I don't think PW would've got to sign 

3 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

Which is rich from them considering he’s been Millwalls best manager for years. 
The crap style was massively overplayed in my opinion, he rolled over against Fulham in second leg that’s the only gripe I had with him along with obviously the way he left. That football is also way better than what we’re currently getting. 

its marginly better...I remember plenty of games sat behind the ball and i was bored to death....rarely on the front foot...fair enough if you'd like him back but there are plenty much better out there than him

And yes may sound surprising but I warned them the football would be hard to watch and they seemed ok with it for a while then starting complaining about the style of play lol....and thats Millwall fans lol as i said says it all really 

7 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

Yeah I remember you being fervently against Rowett, fair reflection about potentially resenting the fact he replaced Mac and the football in comparison to Mac was definitely worse no question although I didn’t think it was as bad as some make out. However we are clearly a lot worse now, Rowett may not be your cup of tea but he would definitely be an upgrade on Warne. Of all the managers out there he’d be the one I reckon could get us promoted if not this season definitely next and then get us competitive in the championship. He’s proven he can do it on small budgets, and while you might not be a fan of the football, at least we would have a clear structure and a plan which right now we have neither. 
 

Rowett was the wrong appointment last time - a complete deviation from playing style of previous managers with players not able to play his way effectively (again another example of Mel’s cluelessness) but this time for where we are at right now he’s a much better fit.

If Rowett ever stepped back into the hotseat here I would not go to another game until he's gone...utter crap style of football and remember how we meekly rolled over against a lot of teams ...its a no from me ...Millwall fans here working with me tonight glad hes gone says it all 

27 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

Very close to that, yes.

Thanks for sharing, are you saying you believe no changes are coming from what you've heard ?

Mark Warburton , great coach WestHam miss him big style this season

Same as QP ha ha... missed Mac when he left they only made play offs but were coasting before Mac left

41 minutes ago, 1of4 said:

So who doing to build this wonder team capable of playing good attractive football, who should we give the job to? Importantly from where are they going to acquire all these young players? 

More importantly how are we going to fund this.

May be all the Warne out brigade can start a go fund me page. Hell why not ask the Clowes detractors to chip in. Then buy the club and run it how they want it to be run.

I do hope there'll be a few million quid left over after acquiring the club. As I'm sure changing the manager and assembling a squad of talented youngsters won't come cheap.

And I wouldn't like to see fans turn on the new owners and manager, because they didn't spend money they didn't have and failed to get us immediately promoted. 

You're a bundle of fun aren't you ? lol

No I'm not saying spend millions , thats the point, we had a reset where we had no choice but to shop in the bargain basement, get our scouts looking at certain types of players, look harder for bargains both here and yes...maybe even abroad one day

Get the right man in who will buy into the long term project and have a vision of what he'd like DCFC to look like in say 5 years then try and implement the plan...its not an easy task i get that ...but there is also plenty of scope to have got us some good untried maybe at this level youngsters in with a few older heads and said...right this is where we are going and we will stick with it because its a vision we can achieve,,,Brighton is a perfect example...we beat them in the play off semis not that long ago and look how far apart we are now , one in Europe and one in div3 !!

If you think its all about spending lots of money then yes it is not achievable but we have the biggest scare of our lifetime and the club was only saved by a proper fan and i totally respect Mr Clowes 

all I am saying is maybe just maybe if we could turn back time was Warne and more importantly, was Warnes football strategy where we wanted to be starting from ? Because teams like Brighton for example when they lost/changed a manager didn't go from one extreme to another

Warne has tried his best but I seriously cannot see this being turned around and the problem is long term do we really want this type of football to succeed? 

Short term some may say yes and if Warne gets us up then change the manager but surely this is where the foresight would benefit us as changing managers, buying the wrong players to suit how we want to play etc etc is where money would get wasted 

have a clear idea how and where you want the club to go , get the right people in to implement that , scout and try to get the sort of bargain players and how the academy is to mirror the first team and then and only then .....give it time to flourish 

The problem I see is Warne is not the right person to have been tasked with it....not his fault he was the wrong choice and Mr Clowes was only doing what he thought was right , but now is the time to cut it as its not working 

Nothing wrong in making mistakes we all make them but when you do its best to act rather than letting it carry on even if that means paying what is needed to make a fresh start ...or is it better to let it go on another 3 years ?

7 minutes ago, Comrade 86 said:

I think when Warne loses the away support, who have been historically staunch and during the troubles, were the best fanbase in the entire EFL, very swiftly his position becomes unsustainable, but what none of us know, is whether we can afford to let him go. With his staff, I'd wager the contingency some fans believe we have tucked up our sleeves would need to be somewhere between two and three million quid. I've no doubt Clowes has it, though whether he'd want to spend it is a different matter. What does give me pause for thought is whether the business plan would allow for what would be a hugely significant uplift in our wage bill. It's not just the hit we take on Warne, it's the cost of the new manager too. 

I'm hoping as a business man Mr Clowes has factored in the cost of making a change if required

I'd be quite worried if he gave Warne and his team a 4 year deal and then thought " hope it works out or we're stuck with him for 4 years "

FWIW I don't think it will cost much more to put his team on gardening leave paying him until the end of the season ( so no change in outgoings ) and then bring Colin in for the rest of the season as I can't imagine he would cost that much and he's always said he'd love to manage us....the cost would be smaller than we think and i really think he'd have us really going for it ....would also give us some entertainment watching him on the touchline lol ....just a thought

2 hours ago, Jourdan said:

The best squad in the division? What is this based on?

who has a better squad than us then ?

15 minutes ago, InstaRam said:

Right now I hope Warne leaves before this go from bad to worse. I like him as a person even if his way of setting us up is not compatible with DCFC. I hate to see him getting abuse from the fans but I also hate to see how we get beaten by Shrewsbury and Stevenege et.al. I could never think that we would not make the top 6 in this poor league but now I actually fear we even might end up mid table if this continues. Horrible to watch right now, like a car crash. 

Warne is a top bloke in my opinion football aside he's a decent man even though some seem to not like his friendliness, nothing i'd like to see more than him getting us playing well and winning games regularly but it just isn't happening 

A serious question:

Would anyone let Warne bring in more of his type of players in January ?

 

My answer is No and thats because I've seen enough , even if he's given the rest of the season by Mr Clowes please don't let him frit away any money in Jan please 

4 hours ago, duncanjwitham said:

So you don’t set up the team in a way that requires them to mix it to win. You set up so those guys pass the other team to death.

This exactly....I've always been told good football will beat physical teams , you have to be tough still of course especially in this division and have an element of physicality  but a good prem or championship  side for example wouldn't be worried about playing Stevenage and wouldn't make excuses if they lost saying it was because they wasn't physical enough lol  as they would have the opposition chasing shadows ...

This is the whole point some see it that we should be more like a L1 side and mix it more and have more L1 traits  but some see it that we should play like a decent level side and build something more sustainable should we ever get promoted and thats where i am with it 

5 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said:

but the longer term goal is surely to be a competitive championship side

The teams that seem to hit the ground running when getting promoted from L1 to the Championship don't play the archaeic  football drudge that we are watching ...lets get a good young side together playing good attractive football that we can all get behind 

a team that will not need major surgery in the championship 

20 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

So Rosenior with his own players had 11/12 games and it was in its infancy.

Warne with his players has had only slightly longer, with most of his signings out injured, but that is not in its infancy?

Not even defending Warne, just pointing out the inconsistency in the way you judge the 2.

I have been bored by both styles to be honest.

How can warne be in its infancy ? he's had over a year ? If Rosenior was still not getting results after a year I'd be asking the same of him....sometimes managers suit and sometimes they don't but Warne was always a strange choice.

The other reason I would've kept Rosenior and gave him more of a chance was because I think he deserved a good crack at it considering the season before and all of the hassles and limitations but didn't walk away.

I've mentioned this before but one of the assessors for FA coaching told me that Rosenior was one of the most inivitive and brightest coaches he'd assessed and said in his opinion he'd go onto be a good manager or coach and this was at a time i and a few  on here had there reservations about him when second to Rooney

41 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

I wouldn't say either were good to watch,both boring in their own pointless ways,neither of which produced a great deal of goals.

I get what you're saying but to think Rosenior or any manager with a new team could get us playing great no fault football in 7 games is a lot to ask...but given time i beleive we'd be happier than what we are now