Rammeister

4 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

No, right to object and right to break your contract are not the same.  Employment conditions are exactly the same so there are no grounds for objection. Plus EFL would have to approve him moving to another club in the EFL... these sort of dirty tactics would also damage the eFL and their precious football creditors.   

Wanting something to be case does not make it so, I’m afraid.

1 hour ago, PistoldPete said:

Having the right to object is not the same as having the right to break your contract.

It is. Read the ACAS guidelines.

I agree as a Derby fan that Byrne doing this leaves a bad taste in the mouth, but he can legally do what he is doing, and there’s not a lot anyone can do about it.

1 hour ago, PistoldPete said:

Did any Wigan players jump ship when their contracts were transferred ? I think Buchanan went out on a limb, this isn’t like the Rangers situation.  Especially as he miraculously found a club just a day after Clowes took over. 

Time will tell.

1 hour ago, ollycutts1982 said:

Did this mean the rams are going down? 

On him? Nah.

9 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

Couldn't be bothered to draw a one eyed Ram on it but somebody might.

1 hour ago, B4ev6is said:

Well maybe not as they can be launchpad to great things.

I agree. We should launch an all out assault to win the Papa Johns Trophy.

Sunderland and Rotherham have both won it in the last two years and look where they are now!

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Lots of interesting legal stuff relating to Glasgow Rangers situation in 2012 online. Slightly different to ours in that they were liquidated, nevertheless, the principle is arguably the same.

BBC article from 2013:

52 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

how come it didnt effect chelsea? 
 

genuine question

I can only guess that their players were happy to stay - after all, where do you go after Chelsea? Having checked all their players who have left they have all gone on ‘frees’ since their takeover, the only interesting one is Lukaku who has gone on loan. Maybe, no one thought about TUPE or ‘rocking the boat’.

I expect Buchanan was clearly looking to go, didn’t fancy League 1 and used this ‘loophole’.
Will be interesting to see what happens next.

1 hour ago, GrimsbyRam said:

Derby Telegraph reporting this too? "But it has since emerged that some players at the club had taken legal advice on their contracts that could be ripped up even though the club’s takeover has been finalised. Now Derby have been sold to Clowes Developments, it will be in the form of a new company and that is governed by legislation known as Transfer of Undertakings.

Staff automatically switch to the new company but they also have the right to be told about the transfer and can object to being an employee before it happens. In theory, that allows players to have their contract terminated as it effectively becomes a resignation"

Yep, spot on.  
 

Just run it past my wife who is an HR Director, and she unfortunately reckons Derby don’t really have a case under TUPE.

Totally! Thank you Mr Clowes.

And, let’s remember the lessons from last season that from now onwards we’ll get more from the team by getting behind them rather than berating them if things aren’t going well.

I’m so thankful Derby still exists and am excited for the future.

COYR

5 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said:

Yes Q’s competence. 

Steady!

2 minutes ago, B4ev6is said:

Do you guys think if fans groups take legal action do think be force give derby money back but I doubt it.

All I care about new owner and derby county suvies this.

 

Are you talking about the money we paid Huddersfield for Butterfield?

 A potential breach of trading standards, as we were lead to believe he was a Championship level footballer?

‘What takeover? Who said anything about a takeover?’

2 minutes ago, Topram said:

Talk sport saying Liam was doing player deals last night, sounds like a few ready to be announced 

I did wonder whether some new players have been training with the existing lads as I notice the usual ‘first day of training’ videos are conspicuously absent on Rams TV. 

So, the deal should Clowes today then!

21 hours ago, jimbobram said:

Last time we had a red kit we played the  best football ever

For Rosenior: To the tune of Hi Ho Silver Lining… Hi Ro Senior

And it's hi, Ro Senior
And away you go now Derby
I see your sun is shining
But I won't make a fuss
Though it's obvious

9 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

East Midlands today mentioning Michael Johnson could be involved in some capacity to help Rosenior

To get them running faster?

8 hours ago, CBX1985 said:

 LR might be someone to nurture and give space to.  It feels a little Eddie Howe.

1 hour ago, Rammy03 said:

If this is true then we've got no goalkeepers. Huge job for whoever it is coming in now. Biggest rebuild of the clubs history

Not to worry. 
 

We can develop a new style of pro football…rush back goalies. Knighty would have the engine for that- if he’s still with us.

Got us relegated.

Surprised he wasn’t sacked.

13 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

All the money and time mel spent investing in the accademy, nurturing home grown talent so derby can follow the soton model and have their own ‘derby way’ gone in a poof of smoke because of the gross mis management of the club he supported as a boy .. what a f****** idiot

Sickening.

Just indicative of where our club is now. Seemingly a feeder club for Crystal Palace once again, and one of our ‘big’ pre season games is against Leicester!

How far we have fallen. 

45 minutes ago, twelveincher said:

Well Hertha announced the friendly against us some weeks ago… they then took it off their website. There must have been something stopping us confirming the fixture, that’s now no longer an issue

There was a problem, but Wayne has managed to get some ringers in from Markeaton Park who were kicking a ball round on Sunday…so we now have 11 players. 

21 minutes ago, B4ev6is said:

I bet Q are thinking let's get this one done before derby outside our head office.

Too late. Derby is there already.??‍♂️

44 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

Nobody is talking to Ed Dawes. His twitter account is down. 

I suspect The Kirch may have launched a cyber attack on Ed’s Twitter account. #ITK