ossieram Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Mother Theresa would probably be classed as one of the nastiest people on this forum judging by the comments of the self righteous brigade on here. Some of you really are holier than thou and have obviously never done anything wrong. angieram and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 7 hours ago, alram said: or do you just pick and choose who you decide should be guilty until proven by a court Yet you did just that from your previous post. You wanted him gone; missing out the court bit, evidence and facts along the way. Yours was a Knee jerk, mob rule reaction. I know this is politics and will probably be deleted but those sort of reactions are exactly what the witch finders of the past and later, Farage, Trump, Corbyn, Scargill et al, all prey on. Get the mob angry and you’ll get your own way. angieram and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 10 minutes ago, BobdeBilder said: Let he who is without sin, lob the first brick. Or something like that. “Cast the first stone”. Referencing Bible days when a group of people would stone somebody to death . I know what you mean about judging other people . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Having said all of this I am a bit surprised that the Club haven’t made some sort of announcement. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 27 minutes ago, Kathcairns said: Im on the fence with this, but there is another old saying,, no smoke without fire. I think it's inappropriate (and unnecessary) to try and come down on either side of the fence until we know the facts. DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn1957 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 The noise you can hear is me putting the stones back on the rockery. Steve How Hard?, MaltRam and ramit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, superfit said: Taking a phone without the owner’s permission IS theft, it’s not a technicality. Taking it forcibly without the owners permission would make it aggravated theft. I have no doubt the owner of the phone was in all probability acting like a bell end but Lang and his wife could have simply removed themselves from the situation. That would’ve been the smart thing to do. IF it transpires that he is convicted of theft is that okay? Are we going to educate our children that acting in this manner is acceptable. No it isn’t ! To prove theft you have to prove the intent to permanently deny the persons possession of the object. “Theft is defined by section 1 of the Theft Act 1968 as the dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it.” You’re right though, they should have walked away. Edited July 4 by jono Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Storm in a teacup. Forget it. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 3 hours ago, superfit said: IF it transpires that he is convicted of theft is that okay? Are we going to educate our children that acting in this manner is acceptable. Seeing as they live in the real world... not an Enid Blyton land of picnics, fairytales and naughty goblins, they may not be overly shocked, interested or traumatised either way. Tamworthram and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I thought this might cause a bit of a stir with the fans, but I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.... jono, angieram, richinspain and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 9 minutes ago, CapeTownRams said: Having said all of this I am a bit surprised that the Club haven’t made some sort of announcement. They have , it was on the Twitter , won’t be making any comment until the Police Investigation is completed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 9 minutes ago, Crewton said: I thought this might cause a bit of a stir with the fans, but I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.... It's all been a giggle...but...have you seen the roaming charges for mobile phones in Spain 😁 Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobdeBilder Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 14 minutes ago, jono said: No it isn’t ! To prove theft you have to prove the intent to permanently deny the persons possession of the object. “Theft is defined by section 1 of the Theft Act 1968 as the dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it.” You’re right though, they should have walked away. True. That's why most vehicular "theft" is classed as Taking without consent and not theft, which is difficult to prove. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 9 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: And 'nicking' the phone, just taking it home to recharge it for the woman? Maybe NML was just looking after it for a while so he could enjoy the rest of the evening enjoying the time with his wife in the club, without being constantly hassled by the woman and her man friend that had maybe already taken many photo’s / video’s etc and kept coming back for more, before it escalated into something that could of and would of been avoidable if the folk had left NML and his wife alone and before NML had the opportunity of passing back the phone…………maybe…… Anyway I wasn’t there so I don’t know, what happened but neither were The Sun and Daily Mail journalists………… jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 34 minutes ago, jono said: No it isn’t ! To prove theft you have to prove the intent to permanently deny the persons possession of the object. “Theft is defined by section 1 of the Theft Act 1968 as the dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it.” Is the law in Spain the same too? (genuine question) jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, MaltRam said: Storm in a teacup. Forget it. A DD cup more like. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Don't know what's worse this thread or the Jay Slater Facebook one with all the detective full time mummy's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Inverurie Ram said: Maybe NML was just looking after it for a while so he could enjoy the rest of the evening enjoying the time with his wife in the club, without being constantly hassled by the woman and her man friend that had maybe already taken many photo’s / video’s etc and kept coming back for more, before it escalated into something that could of and would of been avoidable if the folk had left NML and his wife alone and before NML had the opportunity of passing back the phone…………maybe…… Anyway I wasn’t there so I don’t know, what happened but neither were The Sun and Daily Mail journalists………… Maybe not. There's NO excuse for what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Maybe not. There's NO excuse for what happened. I’d await all the facts before saying something like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 11 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Maybe not. There's NO excuse for what happened. Why, what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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