Ram-Alf Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 32 minutes ago, SSD said: This isn't specifically political, it's been happening for decades. Top brass on all sides are terrible at procurement, public money thrown down the bottomless pit. As per usual, they always pick the cheapest option and it doesn't matter about quality of the product. Happens in all sectors. Even in my workplace, once a contract runs out they'll always pick the lowest bidder and then chuck loads of cash at the problem for the next 5 years once it all falls to piece. It's not their money...so who gives a fcuk 😡 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjjg5z00l3yo ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellaston Ram Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 It would be interesting to know how many people would still have investments and insurance with them now. I’m already leaning towards not using them in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 17/01/2024 at 11:20, ram59 said: It may have failed to catch your attention that the installation, problems and first prosecutions and lying in courts happened under the Blair/Brown governments. It's well documented that they knew about it, but didn't want to upset the 'applecart'. Unfortunately, rarely do we have box to tick, whereby we get a politician who looks after us first and foremost. And Keir Starmer was the Director or Public Prosecutions when cases were brought to court. But says he didn’t know it was happening. It doesn’t matter what your political persuasion or bias is, no-one comes out of this looking good. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 20 hours ago, FlyBritishMidland said: And Keir Starmer was the Director or Public Prosecutions when cases were brought to court. But says he didn’t know it was happening. It doesn’t matter what your political persuasion or bias is, no-one comes out of this looking good. Almost all the prosecutions were outside the remit of the Crown Prosecution Service. They were brought privately by the Post Office, as it weirdly has the right to do. Grumpy Git, Crewton, David Graham Brown and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I’ll tell you the real Post Office scandal. £1.25 for a flipping stamp! Has destroyed the sending of Christmas cards. Now they’re saying they might not deliver at weekends. I hope that this fiasco leads to a total reassessment of the future of the Post Office. AndyinLiverpool and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Anag Ram said: I’ll tell you the real Post Office scandal. £1.25 for a flipping stamp! Has destroyed the sending of Christmas cards. Now they’re saying they might not deliver at weekends. I hope that this fiasco leads to a total reassessment of the future of the Post Office. The Post used to be a service. Now it needs to make money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Anag Ram said: I’ll tell you the real Post Office scandal. £1.25 for a flipping stamp! Has destroyed the sending of Christmas cards. Now they’re saying they might not deliver at weekends. I hope that this fiasco leads to a total reassessment of the future of the Post Office. You can have this for what My great great Gran paid for it ...😁 Anag Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 The minster in charge of overseeing the Post Office, is now calling for those in charge of bringing in and then covering up the egregious prosecutions of post masters, to face jail time. And so they should. But anyone want to take any bets on how far up the management ladder this will reach. It certainly won't reach up to the top rung of management. Some poor sods may be thrown to the wolves, but I doubt it will go beyond the first rung, if it even reach that high. Ram-Alf, Comrade 86 and David Graham Brown 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) I've just watched 2 hours of Alan Bates giving evidence in the Post Office enquirery, I'm no lover of this Government controlled business, The POL(Post Office Ltd)have been caught with their pants down, Hands in the cookie jar, Caught on CCTV, Witnessed by the Pope, Everyone grassing everyone up to hopefully clear their name...and they still think they've done nowt wrong. The POL were trying to bury all this at no matter what cost to the POL/Government(Us the Tax Payer)so it wouldn't have to pay out or anyone getting porridge, Now I'm one of the Worlds biggest sceptics where Governments? and MPs are concerned. Deny Deny Deny is their mantra and yet it's all there in email format as @1of4 has posted some poor sod will be made the scapegoat just like the Banking Scandal then all will be sorted 😁 It's the Alan Bates of this World that Governments hate, Sticking their nose where it's not wanted, He was sacked in 2003 for being crap at his job, He was given extra tuition for being a Sub Postmaster, Time and time again he was given the opportunity to become a good Sub Postmaster but the Post Office had had enough of his stupidity where accounting was concerned, The trouble with all this is...he has paperwork from high up in the Post Office saying how good he was at his job and should be held up as a flagship of his excellence...or words to that effect. Ed Davey not come out well as he turned down a meeting with Alan Bates saying there would be little point as this is a POL matter not a Government matter, Then Alan Bates writes another letter saying as the Government are the paymaster it is their responsibility, Davey relents and gives Alan Bates an interview...only because he was warned that channel 4 news were going to do a piece on this subject and if he refused a meeting this would not look good. Wow got through all that without calling Bates...Master 😁 Edited April 9 by Ram-Alf David Graham Brown and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) On 28/01/2024 at 08:11, Anag Ram said: I’ll tell you the real Post Office scandal. £1.25 for a flipping stamp! Has destroyed the sending of Christmas cards. Now they’re saying they might not deliver at weekends. I hope that this fiasco leads to a total reassessment of the future of the Post Office. Its 1.35 now… went up 2nd of april iv run a post office for nearly 20 years, have had my share of random transaction corrections from the horizon system but expect f*** all back from them Edited April 9 by NottsRam77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 On 09/04/2024 at 19:09, NottsRam77 said: Its 1.35 now… went up 2nd of april iv run a post office for nearly 20 years, have had my share of random transaction corrections from the horizon system but expect f*** all back from them Hope a lot of the senior staff go to jail for what they've done. Crocodile tears again at the hearing today. Of course it will never happen but I would love to see it, and for it to be a sign that we will not put up with this as a country any longer. Heads of the water boards should come next. Reggie Greenwood, Eddie and therealhantsram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 16 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: Hope a lot of the senior staff go to jail for what they've done. Crocodile tears again at the hearing today. Of course it will never happen but I would love to see it, and for it to be a sign that we will not put up with this as a country any longer. Heads of the water boards should come next. The heads of the water boards have a legal obligation to make money for shareholders. They are simply doing capitalism. Without regulation this is what corporations do. The politicians who have weakened the environmental regulations and allowed them to poison our rivers, lakes and seas should be prosecuted for treason. If a foreign power deliberately polluted our country it would be an act of war. AndyinLiverpool, Ram-Alf, Highgate and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 35 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: The heads of the water boards have a legal obligation to make money for shareholders. They are simply doing capitalism. Without regulation this is what corporations do. The politicians who have weakened the environmental regulations and allowed them to poison our rivers, lakes and seas should be prosecuted for treason. If a foreign power deliberately polluted our country it would be an act of war. I agree with you about the politicians who've weakened regulations, but you can't let the water companies off when they do things that they know full well are harmful or when they allow standards to fall so far that they're effectively poisoning people through negligence. Highgate, Comrade 86, Ram-Alf and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: Hope a lot of the senior staff go to jail for what they've done. Crocodile tears again at the hearing today. Of course it will never happen but I would love to see it, and for it to be a sign that we will not put up with this as a country any longer. Heads of the water boards should come next. 100% the worst thing about the PO thing is that all 3 political parties had a chance to do something about it and none did. Which says as much about the system we live in tbh the waterboards are totally fleecing us… and our gov let it happen…energy companys and their record breaking profits.. all while we sit in our onsies and extra blankets cos the heatings so expensive .. i mean wtf? im not going to make this political but lets just say i for one will be up that thursaday night with a big fat bottle of champers on ice Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: The heads of the water boards have a legal obligation to make money for shareholders. They are simply doing capitalism. Without regulation this is what corporations do. The politicians who have weakened the environmental regulations and allowed them to poison our rivers, lakes and seas should be prosecuted for treason. If a foreign power deliberately polluted our country it would be an act of war. They do .. but its blatantly obvious that privatised water does not get the best deal / end product for the paying consumer the idea of privatisation is that it creates competition in the market place which in turn gives the consumer the best possible options and service ermm.. how can i say it without going off on one. it doesnt work with water, public money is being syphoned off into private hands aka shareholders, investment in infrastructure is non existent.. cos . Why would they .. that effects profit right. and ur left with a water system thats negelected to buggery, companies in huge debt, v happy shareholders and public having to boil their water and decide if its worth a swim in the local river next to a floating turd therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: The heads of the water boards have a legal obligation to make money for shareholders. They are simply doing capitalism. Without regulation this is what corporations do. The politicians who have weakened the environmental regulations and allowed them to poison our rivers, lakes and seas should be prosecuted for treason. If a foreign power deliberately polluted our country it would be an act of war. I did see a news report the other night with a 2 foot by 2 foot pipe. It stated that the effluent that went into our waterways and sea in 12 months was the equivalent of that pipe emptying non stop for 50 years. That was incredible to me. I'm sure I saw that France- Paris I think has been the first- have started building very large underground containment units which just hold storm water, to stop human waste spilling into rivers caused by overflowing sewer systems in bad weather. So it can be done. A lot of other damage is of course caused by effluent run off from farms and business so that's a different problem. Here it is https://smartwatermagazine.com/news/smart-water-magazine/paris-unveils-massive-underground-water-storage-basin-clean-seine-river Edited May 22 by Gee SCREAMER !! uttoxram75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 8 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I did see a news report the other night with a 2 foot by 2 foot pipe. It stated that the effluent that went into our waterways and sea in 12 months was the equivalent of that pipe emptying non stop for 50 years. That was incredible to me. I'm sure I saw that France- Paris I think has been the first- have started building very large underground containment units which just hold storm water, to stop human waste spilling into rivers caused by overflowing sewer systems in bad weather. So it can be done. A lot of other damage is of course caused by effluent run off from farms and business so that's a different problem. Here it is https://smartwatermagazine.com/news/smart-water-magazine/paris-unveils-massive-underground-water-storage-basin-clean-seine-river I've seen schemes similar to this included in planning requirements for major housing schemes from about 20 years ago, but I've no idea how often they get ditched from the final plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 11 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Hope a lot of the senior staff go to jail for what they've done. Crocodile tears again at the hearing today. Of course it will never happen but I would love to see it, and for it to be a sign that we will not put up with this as a country any longer. Heads of the water boards should come next. It's a pitiful show, All those that could have fixed it carried on making ££££s while some committed suicide, Went to prison, Ended up bankrupt or paid money back that they shouldn't have done, A scandal of epic proportions, I have no more time for those put through the mangle than I have for a red dog still celebrating 2 EU cups...evil parasites the lot of em. Post office scandal Water scandal Blood scandal Governments through the decades have their filthy hands all over this, And now we have July 4th that will take the public heat off this vile collection putrid filth. For those that think another party will change direction for the better after July 4th get yourselves booked into the nearest asylum for nut jobs...they're all the same...they just wear different colour clothes Edited May 23 by Ram-Alf Archied and Carl Sagan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Paula Vennells must absolutely delighted that a General Election was called yesterday as it kept her out of news. Carl Sagan and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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