Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching

[CongletonRam]

5 hours ago, Gaspode said:

A bunch of Notts numpties singing aboiut a Scottish peninsula is one of the most embarassing things in football - if you like that and know nothing about Derby's history, you may well be going to the wrong ground for your football 'entertainment'.....

How many fans sing along to Steve Bloomers....? Hardly any.

How many fans sing to Mull of Kintrye? Nearly all of them.

Argue with that all you like, but those are facts.

[CongletonRam]

If I don't fu@@ing bounce, does that make me a red?

I have never 'bounced' at a game and nor will I.

Has anyone ever noticed the jeers from the opposing fans when the bounce starts? It's the one time when I am genuinely embarrassed to be in the crowd.

[Mucker1884]

I must admit, I never met the guy, never saw him play, and have never knowingly met any of his descendants.  We do however share the same birthday... which is nice!
Anyway, the following comments relate to the aforementioned... and titular... Mr Steve Bloomer...

 

He played 525 times for Derby...  And scored a clear record 332 goals for The Rams.

After Jimmy Greaves, he is the second-highest all-time goalscorer in the top-flight of English football. 

While at Derby he was top scorer in the First Division on five occasions in 1896, 1897, 1899, 1901 and 1904. In 1896, together with John Campbell of Aston Villa. He was also the leading "Rams" scorer for 14 consecutive seasons and scored 17 hat-tricks in the league. One of his best seasons came in 1896–97 when he scored 31 goals, including five hat-tricks, in 33 League and FA Cup games. Between 14 November 1896 and 5 April 1897 he scored 21 goals in 20 games. He also scored six goals for the club in a game against Sheffield Wednesday in January 1899.

He helped Derby to win the Second Division title in 1911–12, and to finish second in the First Division in 1895–96; he also played on the losing side in four FA Cup semi-finals and three FA Cup finals (1898, 1899 and 1903).

After four years at Middlesbrough he returned to the Rams in 1910 and helped them win the Second Division title in 1912. 

He missed seven games of the 1893–94 season after Leicester Fosse half-back Peggy Lord broke his collarbone on 10 February. Bloomer recovered and claimed 19 goals from 27 appearances during the campaign.

Bloomer's goals helped Derby finish runners-up in the First Division in 1896 and helped them reach three FA Cup finals in 1898, 1899 and 1903. He scored in the 1898 final, a 3–1 defeat to Nottingham Forest. On 3 September 1900 Bloomer scored the first-ever goal at The Hawthorns, the 1–1 draw against West Bromwich Albion being the first match played at the ground.

He also had two spells as Rams Manager.

He also scored 28 goals in 23 appearances for England...

Bloomer made his England debut on 9 March 1895, scoring twice in a 9–0 win against Ireland, which helped England win the British Home Championship.

He scored in all of his first 10 international appearances, which remains a record for number of consecutive scoring appearances. He netted 19 times during these games, including 5 goals against Wales on 16 March 1896, winning three British Home Championships.

He became England's all-time top goalscorer on 2 April 1898, when he surpassed Tinsley Lindley's total of 14 with two goals against Scotland. On 18 March 1901, he scored four goals against Wales, becoming the first player to score two hat-tricks for England and also the first to score four goals for England twice, as England once again won the British Home Championship.

At the end of 1901, his goal tally stood at 25 in just 14 games.

He captained England once; against Scotland on 3 May 1902.

He finished his international career in 1907 as England's longest serving player and England's all-time top goalscorer with 28 goals. He held the record until his tally was overhauled by Vivian Woodward in 1911.

A plaque commemorating Bloomer's by-then demolished birthplace in Bridge Street, Cradley, was unveiled in 2000 by former Wolverhampton Wanderers and Derby player Jimmy Dunn and Bloomer's grandson Steve Richards.[53]

On 17 January 2009, after a long and sustained period of campaigning, a bust of Bloomer was finally unveiled inside Pride Park, Derby. Bloomer's two grandsons, Steve Richards and Alan Quantrill, unveiled the bust in the presence of Bloomer's family and relations, the sculptor Andy Edwards and thousands of Derby County fans. On 17 January 2009, a bust of Bloomer was unveiled next to the home dugout at Pride Park Stadium.

He remains a legend at Derby County

He also had to put up with quite a bit of s*** in Germany, during The Great War... including being interned at Ruhleben, a civilian detention camp in the Spandau district of Berlin, in 1914.

 

In January 2024, he was described by someone on the internet, claiming to be a Derby County fan, as "some dead footballer who no one really knows".

Allow me to repeat that, to avoid any doubt... "some dead footballer who no one really knows".

The above comment was further accompanied with "who the hell is Steve Bloomer....and I really don't care if he is watching or not."

 

This is the one time I am genuinely embarrassed to be in the presence of a fellow Derby County fan.

 

Edited January 2 by Mucker1884

[LeedsCityRam]

1 hour ago, CongletonRam said:

Why are you not permitted to have an opinion that is negative about DCFC without being labelled a Forest fan?

Just because I think some crap tune about some dead footballer who no one really knows isn't great at working the crowd up, particularly when compared to the tune at Forest when nearly all fans are singing. That is what we want.

I mean really...who the hell is Steve Bloomer....and I really don't care if he is watching or not. It is not a tune that gets the fans going, or a tune that the fans are singing along to.

'That dead footballer' happens to be our record goalscorer. And I don't think it was just that remark that has aroused suspicion - you seem to hate everything about the Derby fan experience whilst making up some irrelevant nonsense about a club down the road. When they were rotting in League One, they certainly weren't booming out anything - in fact, a lot of them abandoned the club & the place was like a morgue. Their support is an embarrassment & so are your comments.

Edited January 2 by LeedsCityRam

[IslandExile]

FWIW I say keep it.

And follow it with Dambusters.

A few verses of "we all effing hate reds" should rev everyone up.

[Carl Sagan]

9 hours ago, KnowledgeisPorridge said:

Just no need to overthink it.

Queen - We Will Rock You (BBG style). Done.

And for the love of god, I'd rather have silence than Mr Brightside. 

As someone who used to watch The Killers when there were only 50 of us in the audience, I was thrilled to hear we'd started using this. Then I turned up at the ground full of expectation, only to discover it was the weirdest "mashup" of Mr Brightside and Sweet Child of Mine. How to absolutely massacre two great songs. Whoever did that should be ashamed of themselves and never allowed back at Pride Park.

2 hours ago, CongletonRam said:

How many fans sing along to Steve Bloomers....? Hardly any.

How many fans sing to Mull of Kintrye? Nearly all of them.

Argue with that all you like, but those are facts.

I love how you're like someone from an internet message board from twenty years ago, putting "FACT" on your posts as if that makes it true.

28 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

FWIW I say keep it.

And follow it with Dambusters.

A few verses of "we all effing hate reds" should rev everyone up.

This was exactly what I was going to suggest. Or the other way around. Two songs connected to Derby. Treasure what is ours.

[CBRammette]

11 hours ago, CongletonRam said:

I doubt there a many fans who actually know or really care who Steve Bloomer is.

Had it not been for the song, I wouldn't have heard of him and even now, the only thing I know is that he's a former payer who did quite well and who died around 100 years ago.

I have never quite got the song, and as walk on music or music to work the crowd up; it's something of an embarrassment.

 

Having said that, I find the stupid bounce an embarrassment. When I go to a game, I like to sit and watch and enjoy. I don't need the hassle or pressure of having to sing a song with my daughter containing expletives and then bouncing up and down like some deranged zombie.

I find the stupid 'This is Derby' poem they play a major embarrassment. The words are actually cringeworthy.

I was watching Forest v Man Utd the other day and I was thinking just how much 'Mull of Kintyre' is working for them down the road. So much better than what we have. 

 

 

Gosh the whole thing is just embarrassing then? 

[Alty_Ram]

I have to admit that I'm really not a fan of the song and I don't sing it as it always feels a bit cringey. To my ears it's always sounded a bit 'Wannabe Cockney' and honestly, I'd be more than happy if we ditched it. Not sure you'll get any kind of consensus on what to change it to though but that's the nature of people eh !

[Sweetness34]

22 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

Jeez, after that diatribe, you end up with "Mull of Kintyre"! I didn't even know Forest played it.

Agree with you on the words to the bounce song though...terrible. Does anyone even call Forest the Reds?

 

Yes, their fans

[Sweetness34]

17 hours ago, Skin em Ted said:

.....lot of folks in their late 30's who never went to the BBG (I believe the song was introduced at the same time as the move to PP?) who have been taking their own kids to matches for some time now.

 

Without thinking, I very nearly instinctively replied saying "well as a young man myself, I have fond memories of the Baseball Ground" before thinking a little harder and realising I'm on the eve of 38 years of age and although I had a season ticket for the last 2 seasons at the Baseball Ground, I was only 11 when we left!

My brother who is 2 years younger than me barely remembers it so it's actually quite mad to think that you're quite right, there really are people well into their 30s who either didn't go or don't remember the Baseball Ground.

How depressing

[ariotofmyown]

4 hours ago, Sweetness34 said:

Yes, their fans

Didn't know that. I'm fortunate to not know many Forest fans. I think that old school thing of calling teams by their colours has faded away a bit.

Chelsea still the Blues. Maybe City Sky Blues?

[Sweetness34]

2 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said:

Didn't know that. I'm fortunate to not know many Forest fans. I think that old school thing of calling teams by their colours has faded away a bit.

Chelsea still the Blues. Maybe City Sky Blues?

I sadly do know a few 😞 and they can be ridiculous. They'll make sheep noises like it's some diss and I'm like "oh thanks for that mate, I didn't know a Ram was a sheep, you've really cut me deep there". Some claim to actually hate sheep because of Derby County and I'm not making that up

My sister is married to a Forest fan and I had the misfortune on going on his stag do with an awful lot of Forest fans to Benidorm and being the only Derby fan. 

It was dreadful but at least it was during the years where we were the better team. I can't imagine being in that same situation now

[VulcanRam]

Keep it. Yes it's a bit twee but not nearly as bad as some other club songs (Everton take a bow). It's the only thing that gets the whole ground clapping and engaged before kick off. Get the timing right (and don't ambush us with a third verse) and it creates a huge "Derby" right around the ground. 

@CongletonRam wumming that Bloomer is "some dead footballer who no one really knows" shows two things: his/her idiocy and the importance of keeping the song, something that celebrates not only our leading goalscorer of all time, but one of the greatest footballers of his generation. He remains the most successful Derby County player ever.

No-one wants to live in the past, but we should always treasure our heritage, especially a player like him. 

[Elwood P Dowd]

The history is an important part of the clubs identity, were it not been for a few events in the past we could now be supporting Derby Town, Derby Midland or Derby Junction to name but a few. 

Derby was, and still is, a footballing (Town) even Sir Brian commented on that. 

Steve Bloomer "some dead footballer who no one really knows" really !!!!!!!!!

Edited January 3 by Elwood P Dowd

[Mucker1884]

2 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

I think that old school thing of calling teams by their colours has faded away a bit.

I saw what you did there.

 

[Tamworthram]

On 02/01/2024 at 17:50, CongletonRam said:

How many fans sing along to Steve Bloomers....? Hardly any.

How many fans sing to Mull of Kintrye? Nearly all of them.

Argue with that all you like, but those are facts.

I agree. Mull of Kintyre is an awful song but many of them do sing it currently. Some might say they wouldn’t sing it so much if they were back in league 1 but, I doubt many of us would sing along to SBW even if we were back in the Prem. We’d just clap along and join in the chant at the end.

Dambusters wouldn’t be good because the only words are about another team (even if we changed it to “we all ducking hate reds”). Imagine how amused (possibly even flattered) we’d be if Leeds ran out to a song about how much they hate Derby.

Unfortunately, the better tunes are perhaps a little too contrived or complicated to really get the masses involved so it needs to be a simple (possibly even crap) song. The only one I can think of is “Sailing”. A poor choice but I’m struggling to think of anything better.

[NottsRammy]

Its solved  the darts theme CHASING THE SUN with Derby !! chucked in on the end of it lol .

[Mucker1884]

Just listened to that darts theme (For the first time)...

What a row!  🙄

 

Nothing more than caveman style "der, der, der" ing.
No lyrics.  No meaning.  No connection to the city, the County, or the FC itself.
Throw in the two syllable "Derby" into that 3 syllable big finish.
(I suppose the South and East could use the first two syllables, and North and West use the latter two!)  #foroldtimessake    #it'stradition

At least the last "Der, Der, Der" song had "Stevie Howard" at the end, to add some connection as to why we were actually "singing" it!

It's an horrendous mess waiting to happen. 

🤮

 

For those reasons...

 

 

[Rammed79]

Still think we should be playing "Wooly bully" by Sam the sham can't think of anything more perfect 

[ariotofmyown]

6 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

I agree. Mull of Kintyre is an awful song but many of them do sing it currently. Some might say they wouldn’t sing it so much if they were back in league 1 but, I doubt many of us would sing along to SBW even if we were back in the Prem. We’d just clap along and join in the chant at the end.

Dambusters wouldn’t be good because the only words are about another team (even if we changed it to “we all ducking hate reds”). Imagine how amused (possibly even flattered) we’d be if Leeds ran out to a song about how much they hate Derby.

Unfortunately, the better tunes are perhaps a little too contrived or complicated to really get the masses involved so it needs to be a simple (possibly even crap) song. The only one I can think of is “Sailing”. A poor choice but I’m struggling to think of anything better.

I think Sailing sang at the same tempo as the actual song would be awesome. Who decided we have to sing the speed garage version?