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Warne apparently wants a centre mid who can also play RWB, quite a niche market there I reckon.

We need 2 centre mids for sure. We need energy, pace & creativity in there. Add the above & then you can potentially get the best out of players like Hourihane & Smith rather than wanting/expecting them to do something they cant.

Bird is unlikeky to be fully fit until Christmas time & could potentially be gone in Jan anyway.

Based off contracts we have no first team centre mids beyond this season, no issue bringing in players this summer if they're here for the next few years too.

If the CM can cover RWB then we could do with 2 CMs & 2 strikers (1 Smith/Cosgrove type & 1x pacey option)

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1 hour ago, McMuffin said:

Bird, Wilson and Ward all out for 8 weeks. Then they have to get fit so Smith could well be playing right back. So that’s 2 of those midfielders you’ve listed not in midfield. Then Bird could go in January. Warne never signed and of the midfielders to be fair to him.

8 weeks = 14 games
Rest of season = 32+ games

We have 2 options:
1. Sign 1 player to be a starter, and utilise fringe players such as DRobinson and Radcliffe to fill in when required until Bird is fit
2. Sign 2 players, not use fringe players and harm their development, AND limit game time for first teamers such as Thompson and Sibley, further harming their development and future sell-on value.

Signing short term cover is not an option, as this indicates they are squad players rather than starters who would improve the squad. If they would improve the squad, they would be season long signings, resulting in option number 2.

Why would we sell Bird in January? Our aim is promotion and selling Bird would be to the detriment of that. He's our best midfielder so we should be doing everything to keep him. We do that by getting promoted...

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2 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Warne apparently wants a centre mid who can also play RWB, quite a niche market there I reckon.

We need 2 centre mids for sure. We need energy, pace & creativity in there. Add the above & then you can potentially get the best out of players like Hourihane & Smith rather than wanting/expecting them to do something they cant.

Bird is unlikeky to be fully fit until Christmas time & could potentially be gone in Jan anyway.

Based off contracts we have no first team centre mids beyond this season, no issue bringing in players this summer if they're here for the next few years too.

If the CM can cover RWB then we could do with 2 CMs & 2 strikers (1 Smith/Cosgrove type & 1x pacey option)

We have a centre mid who can also play RWB in Smith, to be fair. He might be better at RWB than CM in fairness - certainly going by last season. 

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2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

8 weeks = 14 games
Rest of season = 32+ games

We have 2 options:
1. Sign 1 player to be a starter, and utilise fringe players such as DRobinson and Radcliffe to fill in when required until Bird is fit
2. Sign 2 players, not use fringe players and harm their development, AND limit game time for first teamers such as Thompson and Sibley, further harming their development and future sell-on value.

Signing short term cover is not an option, as this indicates they are squad players rather than starters who would improve the squad. If they would improve the squad, they would be season long signings, resulting in option number 2.

Why would we sell Bird in January? Our aim is promotion and selling Bird would be to the detriment of that. He's our best midfielder so we should be doing everything to keep him. We do that by getting promoted...

The new signings could potentially make us better as a team and have us in a better position than if we had Bird in the team so why wouodnt we then sell Bird?

We have no centre mids for next season so bringing 2 in on permanents (if thats what they end up being) isnt short term.

With regards Robinson, Radcliffe etc, these are all young lads and to expect them to step up and into a team with such high expectations isnt realistic. They need to playing for the u23s or maybe even going out on loan, or maybe making the bench for EFL trophy, right now they shouldnt be close to the first team and if they are thats a concern & shows how light on numbers we are.

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10 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

8 weeks = 14 games
Rest of season = 32+ games

We have 2 options:
1. Sign 1 player to be a starter, and utilise fringe players such as DRobinson and Radcliffe to fill in when required until Bird is fit
2. Sign 2 players, not use fringe players and harm their development, AND limit game time for first teamers such as Thompson and Sibley, further harming their development and future sell-on value.

Signing short term cover is not an option, as this indicates they are squad players rather than starters who would improve the squad. If they would improve the squad, they would be season long signings, resulting in option number 2.

Why would we sell Bird in January? Our aim is promotion and selling Bird would be to the detriment of that. He's our best midfielder so we should be doing everything to keep him. We do that by getting promoted...

He’s played 4 games and we’ve been out played and beaten in 3. Without him we’ve won 1 in 1.

He’s out of contact and hasn’t signed so he probably wants to go

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8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

8 weeks = 14 games
Rest of season = 32+ games

We have 2 options:
1. Sign 1 player to be a starter, and utilise fringe players such as DRobinson and Radcliffe to fill in when required until Bird is fit
2. Sign 2 players, not use fringe players and harm their development, AND limit game time for first teamers such as Thompson and Sibley, further harming their development and future sell-on value.

Signing short term cover is not an option, as this indicates they are squad players rather than starters who would improve the squad. If they would improve the squad, they would be season long signings, resulting in option number 2.

Why would we sell Bird in January? Our aim is promotion and selling Bird would be to the detriment of that. He's our best midfielder so we should be doing everything to keep him. We do that by getting promoted...

I don’t get why you say we can’t sign a short term player? We could get one on loan, knowing Birds going to be out for awhile, whilst also having lots of games in the pizza cup. It’s quite feasible we get one in on a permanent signing as a DM in place of Smith, then one short term loan to cover BIrd in the advanced midfield role (whilst battling with Thompson) until Jan and assess then. 
 

If Birds sold we can try and make it a full season loan, if not they go back.

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Midfielders don’t necessarily have to be centrally by the way. In my opinion we need 2 midfielders. Having Bird, Hourihane, Thommo, Smith and another Midfielder is good going. Having 2, especially with the way injuries have gone against us already this season is welcomed. Also the stick that Hourihane is getting is unjustified, one of the best players last Saturday and made some crunching tackles, he’s by far our most technically gifted player and is a threat from set pieces. He is slow but that’s why you get legs around him 

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16 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

8 weeks = 14 games
Rest of season = 32+ games

We have 2 options:
1. Sign 1 player to be a starter, and utilise fringe players such as DRobinson and Radcliffe to fill in when required until Bird is fit
2. Sign 2 players, not use fringe players and harm their development, AND limit game time for first teamers such as Thompson and Sibley, further harming their development and future sell-on value.

Signing short term cover is not an option, as this indicates they are squad players rather than starters who would improve the squad. If they would improve the squad, they would be season long signings, resulting in option number 2.

Why would we sell Bird in January? Our aim is promotion and selling Bird would be to the detriment of that. He's our best midfielder so we should be doing everything to keep him. We do that by getting promoted...

Very rarely will all 7 options be fit, also enables us to change formation and systems aswell as maybe loaning out one of robinson or Radcliffe. You need a strong squad to go up not just a strong 11/18

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