They're playing football now, not hoofball.

[Ellafella]

4 hours ago, Kathcairns said:

Couldnt move in the packed baseball ground. Dosnt it hold the record for a derby match at home. Can always remember the excitment of seeing the great Greavsie play.

Yep, from memory it was 42,700 odd. 

[Ellafella]

11 hours ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

Think the “oldtimers “ is catching up with you @DavesaRam. It was the Arsenal 5-0 win in 1973 the spurs one was 1969 ?

Yep - @DavesaRamis definitely losing it? 

[Comrade 86]

9 minutes ago, sage said:

Life is full of ifs and buts, but if McGoldrick had stayed fit for LR, would a few additional point keep him in a job?

I dare say Clowes had Warne lined up, but would he have been tempted to keep LR if we were 4/5 points and 3 places better off.  

Fair question, but an irrelevant one now. 

[Ellafella]

13 minutes ago, sage said:

Life is full of ifs and buts, but if McGoldrick had stayed fit for LR, would a few additional point keep him in a job?

I dare say Clowes had Warne lined up, but would he have been tempted to keep LR if we were 4/5 points and 3 places better off.  

Whatever floats your boat @sage?

[Foreveram]

4 minutes ago, Ellafella said:

Yep, from memory it was 42,700 odd. 

41,826, it’s imprinted in my brain.

[sage]

9 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Fair question, but an irrelevant one now. 

yes, just a response to those who say LR wouldn't have got us into the play offs

 

[May Contain Nuts]

1 hour ago, Brailsford Ram said:

I can't believe the doubters want to make themselves heard at this stage. Save it for later fellas or hopefully never at all.

Who are you referring to as doubters?

I really don't think you'll find anyone who doesn't think that Warne provides the best chance for us to get up this season or next and avoid the trap of being stuck in League One for multiple years. You may find 1 or 2 at a push who still actively don't want him as the manager, but they would massively be outliers.

That doesn't mean that anyone providing any sort of critique (which I must point out as I often do, is not the same as criticism) of his and the team's performances, or anyone puts them into a wider context - aside from the usual "well we're lucky to still have a club" whimpering - should effectively be told to shut the f*** up.

(I mean, we are lucky, but that stage is over and done with; we've been able to assemble a squad which has enough quality and nearly enough depth to stand a real chance of going straight back up)

This happened under Rooney too - the focus was so much on the position we found ourselves in that any real discussion about his future potential as a manager, any talk of his shortcomings was as welcome as the proverbial fart in a lift. When he left a fair few posters went on to let out their frustration - almost as if they didn't dare voice them earlier - which had the effect of making them look like hypocrites and turncoats.

This whole thread (actually that's not fair, it's only after a certain point) seems to be designed to shame anyone who isn't singing Warne-centric hymns at full-voice with the rest of the choir, whether they believe in him or not.

It's all a bit cultish, or one letter off that.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Kokosnuss

[Reggie Greenwood]

21 minutes ago, Foreveram said:

41,826, it’s imprinted in my brain.

That was the official felt like more ?

[Foreveram]

4 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

That was the official felt like more ?

I was in the Ossie end near the floodlight pylon.

[DavesaRam]

5 hours ago, Kathcairns said:

Couldnt move in the packed baseball ground. Dosnt it hold the record for a derby match at home. Can always remember the excitment of seeing the great Greavsie play.

Yes it was rather full. And a highlight was seeing Les Green save at point blank range from Greavsie! And he held on to the ball as well. No poncy palming it past the post!

[DavesaRam]

59 minutes ago, Ellafella said:

Yep - @DavesaRamis definitely losing it? 

What must I have been on to loose 4 years of my life like that?

[Eddie]

On 15/01/2023 at 09:07, angieram said:

I always vote for team goals over screamers in gotm competitions,  so I already know I'm in the minority.

There was a goal a couple of games ago at Pride Park where we worked through the field and passed the ball into the net. Poetry.

But every now and then, there's a screamer that puts all those, plus other rockets, in the shade. Bird's shot yesterday was one of those. 

I'd be very surprised if it isn't our Goal of the Season so far.

Fixed (in hope)

[Jourdan]

5 hours ago, Kokosnuss said:

Who are you referring to as doubters?

I really don't think you'll find anyone who doesn't think that Warne provides the best chance for us to get up this season or next and avoid the trap of being stuck in League One for multiple years. You may find 1 or 2 at a push who still actively don't want him as the manager, but they would massively be outliers.

That doesn't mean that anyone providing any sort of critique (which I must point out as I often do, is not the same as criticism) of his and the team's performances, or anyone puts them into a wider context - aside from the usual "well we're lucky to still have a club" whimpering - should effectively be told to shut the f*** up.

(I mean, we are lucky, but that stage is over and done with; we've been able to assemble a squad which has enough quality and nearly enough depth to stand a real chance of going straight back up)

This happened under Rooney too - the focus was so much on the position we found ourselves in that any real discussion about his future potential as a manager, any talk of his shortcomings was as welcome as the proverbial fart in a lift. When he left a fair few posters went on to let out their frustration - almost as if they didn't dare voice them earlier - which had the effect of making them look like hypocrites and turncoats.

This whole thread (actually that's not fair, it's only after a certain point) seems to be designed to shame anyone who isn't singing Warne-centric hymns at full-voice with the rest of the choir, whether they believe in him or not.

It's all a bit cultish, or one letter off that.

If you are not convinced by Warne, that is fair enough. He still has work to do and plenty to prove.

Describing the support for him as verging on a cult and suggesting people are being shamed for not falling in line seems a bit much, mind you.

By comparison, those who doubted (or as you put it, critiqued) Rooney, Rosenior and Cocu and were arguably right in doing so were on the receiving end of much worse than we’ve seen in this thread.

I think even those very much in favour of Warne can see that he is not infallible and his management style is not without its faults or limitations and that his work here is very much one that is in progress. In many ways given where the majority of fans think we should be and how we should be playing, you could argue his work has not even really started.

That said, what’s wrong with enjoying the club being on the up, getting behind a manager who has an encouraging track record in this division, and a group of players who are obviously responding to his methods?

If we can’t be positive when we haven’t lost a game for almost a quarter of a year, when is the time?

[RoyMac5]

6 hours ago, Jourdan said:

If we can’t be positive when we haven’t lost a game for almost a quarter of a year, when is the time?

You could start a poll? ? ? #COYR

[ilkleyram]

13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

You could start a poll? ? ? #COYR

I thought bielik had decided to stay at Brum. 

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

7 hours ago, Jourdan said:

If you are not convinced by Warne, that is fair enough. He still has work to do and plenty to prove.

Describing the support for him as verging on a cult and suggesting people are being shamed for not falling in line seems a bit much, mind you.

By comparison, those who doubted (or as you put it, critiqued) Rooney, Rosenior and Cocu and were arguably right in doing so were on the receiving end of much worse than we’ve seen in this thread.

I think even those very much in favour of Warne can see that he is not infallible and his management style is not without its faults or limitations and that his work here is very much one that is in progress. In many ways given where the majority of fans think we should be and how we should be playing, you could argue his work has not even really started.

That said, what’s wrong with enjoying the club being on the up, getting behind a manager who has an encouraging track record in this division, and a group of players who are obviously responding to his methods?

If we can’t be positive when we haven’t lost a game for almost a quarter of a year, when is the time?

I can't see many, if any, who are not positive. 

[sage]

Whilst things are going well, there are some still concerns.

I'd like to see us control games more, especially when we are winning. Retain possession more when a couple of goals up.

 

[RoyMac5]

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If we can’t be positive when we haven’t lost a game for almost a quarter of a year, when is the time?

 

1 hour ago, ilkleyram said:

I thought bielik had decided to stay at Brum. 

A poll about when to be positive.

Edit: and the emojis ? ? hinted at it being a joke.

Edited January 17, 2023 by RoyMac5

[May Contain Nuts]

8 hours ago, Jourdan said:

If you are not convinced by Warne, that is fair enough. He still has work to do and plenty to prove.

Describing the support for him as verging on a cult and suggesting people are being shamed for not falling in line seems a bit much, mind you.

By comparison, those who doubted (or as you put it, critiqued) Rooney, Rosenior and Cocu and were arguably right in doing so were on the receiving end of much worse than we’ve seen in this thread.

I think even those very much in favour of Warne can see that he is not infallible and his management style is not without its faults or limitations and that his work here is very much one that is in progress. In many ways given where the majority of fans think we should be and how we should be playing, you could argue his work has not even really started.

That said, what’s wrong with enjoying the club being on the up, getting behind a manager who has an encouraging track record in this division, and a group of players who are obviously responding to his methods?

If we can’t be positive when we haven’t lost a game for almost a quarter of a year, when is the time?

That's a crock of s*** and you know it ?

I'm not describing "the support" (of which I am part, as are 99% of posters) for Warne as cultish, I'm describing the attitude (which you've very much contributed to) that anyone talking about what he's done so far in anything other than reverential terms is somehow a doubter, being negative and not getting on board.

It's utter b*******, but it's exactly the attitude you've pushed here. Your entrance into the thread was telling people what they should have thought, praising people for 'converting' into believers. Everything positive under Warne is put down solely to his influence. Brailsford has basically just called for a Utopian view. Very much religious / cult vibes!

Is it 'a bit much'? Maybe, but it's supposed to be, it's tongue in cheek, a bit of hyperbole... and yet somehow it's increasingly accurate!

Nobody anywhere has said it's wrong to be supportive of Warne, happy with our performances or positive about our form and future. Please stop trying to make out they have.

I support Warne, I'm positive he's the right man to get us back to the Championship and I think he's doing a good job (which I've said many times). I'm happy that the club is on the up again. I can only apologise if I and a few others are not displaying it in a manner which is enough for you.

I'm really sorry for taking a step back, putting our good form into context and not giddily joining the conga line. I'm sorry that you somehow see that as being negative and unsupportive rather than keeping a realistic view.

I promise for the next appointment that I'll just take whatever the popularist view is and run with that. I mean, it's a lot less hassle, as you've found out.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Kokosnuss

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Kokosnuss said:

Brailsford has basically just called for a Utopian view. Very much religious / cult vibes!

I have done nothing of the sort and as someone who has never done religion or cults in his life, I am too long in the tooth to start now. And as someone who has probably seen far more of the ups and downs  of Derby County than you, for eight years I witnessed near-Utopia and know going anywhere near that again will never come around again in my life time. There was much discussion on this board about the change in manager, much of it  anti-Warne, when the change was made and all of it has not disappeared - wait for a couple of adverse results and see the reaction.

My point was now is the time to leave it alone as it is distractive, then address it if you will if and when things take a downward turn. I can only suggest you cut down taking what you're on and go away and smell the coffee.