North v South

[Van der MoodHoover]

Winchester.... 

[cstand]

22 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Winchester.... 

you’re bringing me down 

[Gritstone Ram]

Where is the cut off between North and South? Once rumored to be the Watford Gap but now thought to be Beeston?

[Elwood P Dowd]

The Scots think the North starts at Carlisle I suppose is all a matter of perception ?  

[Van der MoodHoover]

20 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said:

The Scots think the North starts at Carlisle I suppose is all a matter of perception ?  

And stamdards.... 

The North is where feta and tapenade in a filo pastry parcel stops being a thing.... ?

[Day]

1 hour ago, Gritstone Ram said:

Where is the cut off between North and South? Once rumored to be the Watford Gap but now thought to be Beeston?

Where you can walk into a bar with a fiver in your hand and not have to worry about being able to afford a pint.

[ariotofmyown]

1 hour ago, Gritstone Ram said:

Where is the cut off between North and South? Once rumored to be the Watford Gap but now thought to be Beeston?

Me and my mates you used to laugh at Southerners who thought anything past Watford was the North.

Realised when I was about 30 that the phrase was Watford Gap.

[2tups]

Where anyone understands the meaning of mardy, cob and jitty. 

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

45 minutes ago, 2tups said:

Where anyone understands the meaning of mardy, cob and jitty. 

No one understands that bugger anywhere else, has heard of a mix at the chippy or heard the phrase 'wash the pots' in my experience. 

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

1 hour ago, David said:

Where you can walk into a bar with a fiver in your hand and not have to worry about being able to afford a pint.

Its getting close.  Reckon 75% of the pubs in Derby are 30p of a fiver a pint. 

They have been at least a fiver in London for the last 100 years mind, all washed down with a 10 quid saveloy from the chippy at 2 in the morning.  Bloody animals. 

[Crewton]

21 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Its getting close.  Reckon 75% of the pubs in Derby are 30p of a fiver a pint. 

They have been at least a fiver in London for the last 100 years mind, all washed down with a 10 quid saveloy from the chippy at 2 in the morning.  Bloody animals. 

£4 in the River Ale House in Greenwich. You just need a better research assistant. 

[Ram-Alf]

The North starts where your Mum wears curlers in her hair and has an apron on even in bed, You Dad sleeps with his socks on and has his false teeth in a glass at the side of his bed, Eat chip fat sandwiches and smoke park drive, Go to the butchers and get a joint of beef and have it on the slate, Nip round next door for a cup of sugar, Go to the farm and get a pint of Fresh milk(yep we did it)play hop scotch, Cherry knocking, Cat creeping, Ask the neighbour if you can have your ball back...then told to duck off, Wear a vest in the Winter, Have a shilling(5p) for the gas meter...it's another world up North...southern bloody softies ?

[i-Ram]

What I like about the south is that there are not too many northerners, and those that have come down here appear to be the best and brightest.

[ImARam2]

Under a treaty between King Alfred of Wessex (the South) and the Vikings (the North) the boundary was set, approximately on the River Trent at Repton, capital of Mercia, where the Vikings had their most southerly camp.

Everything above the River Trent was called Danelaw - the North, and those of the South were Anglo-Saxon.

The Danelaw originated from the invasion of the Great Heathen Army into England in the 9th century, although the term was not used to describe a geographic area until the 11th century. With the increase in population and productivity in Scandinavia, Viking warriors, having sought treasure and glory in the nearby British Isles, "proceeded to plough and support themselves", in the words of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle for the year 876.

Danelaw can describe the set of legal terms and definitions created in the treaties between Alfred the Great, the king of Wessex, and Guthrum, the Danish warlord, written following Guthrum's defeat at the Battle of Edington in 878.

The Danelaw roughly comprised these contemporary shires: Leicester, York, Nottingham, Derby, Lincoln, Durham, Northumberland, Essex, Cambridge, Suffolk, Norfolk, Northampton.

I can only presume how Essex, Cambridge, Suffolk & Norfolk got into being called Danelaw, was that they came ashore on the East coast and how difficult it is to get through the fens (even today), they were left to do as they pleased.

[uttoxram75]

20 minutes ago, ImARam2 said:

Under a treaty between King Alfred of Wessex (the South) and the Vikings (the North) the boundary was set, approximately on the River Trent at Repton, capital of Mercia, where the Vikings had their most southerly camp.

Everything above the River Trent was called Danelaw - the North, and those of the South were Anglo-Saxon.

The Danelaw originated from the invasion of the Great Heathen Army into England in the 9th century, although the term was not used to describe a geographic area until the 11th century. With the increase in population and productivity in Scandinavia, Viking warriors, having sought treasure and glory in the nearby British Isles, "proceeded to plough and support themselves", in the words of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle for the year 876.

Danelaw can describe the set of legal terms and definitions created in the treaties between Alfred the Great, the king of Wessex, and Guthrum, the Danish warlord, written following Guthrum's defeat at the Battle of Edington in 878.

The Danelaw roughly comprised these contemporary shires: Leicester, York, Nottingham, Derby, Lincoln, Durham, Northumberland, Essex, Cambridge, Suffolk, Norfolk, Northampton.

I can only presume how Essex, Cambridge, Suffolk & Norfolk got into being called Danelaw, was that they came ashore on the East coast and how difficult it is to get through the fens (even today), they were left to do as they pleased.

https://thehistoryofengland.co.uk/resource/maps-500-1000/

[Turk Thrust]

31 minutes ago, ImARam2 said:

Under a treaty between King Alfred of Wessex (the South) and the Vikings (the North) the boundary was set, approximately on the River Trent at Repton, capital of Mercia, where the Vikings had their most southerly camp.

Everything above the River Trent was called Danelaw - the North, and those of the South were Anglo-Saxon.

The Danelaw originated from the invasion of the Great Heathen Army into England in the 9th century, although the term was not used to describe a geographic area until the 11th century. With the increase in population and productivity in Scandinavia, Viking warriors, having sought treasure and glory in the nearby British Isles, "proceeded to plough and support themselves", in the words of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle for the year 876.

Danelaw can describe the set of legal terms and definitions created in the treaties between Alfred the Great, the king of Wessex, and Guthrum, the Danish warlord, written following Guthrum's defeat at the Battle of Edington in 878.

The Danelaw roughly comprised these contemporary shires: Leicester, York, Nottingham, Derby, Lincoln, Durham, Northumberland, Essex, Cambridge, Suffolk, Norfolk, Northampton.

I can only presume how Essex, Cambridge, Suffolk & Norfolk got into being called Danelaw, was that they came ashore on the East coast and how difficult it is to get through the fens (even today), they were left to do as they pleased.

Ah my subject area. You can often trace where the Danes settled by the old Danish suffix “by” which equates with the Anglo Saxon “borough” , (hence by-laws). Lincolnshire is full of villages ending in by. Around Derby there is Bretby (named by Danes for the place where Celtic peoples (Britons) lived, Ingleby (Danish name for the town of the English), Normanton (English name (town) for the place where Normans (Northmen) in other words Danes, lived and Denby (Danish for town of the Danes). It shows within a small area how celts, Anglo Saxons and Danes lived and got on)

And of course there is Derby, town of the deer, but not the animal we now call deer. Deer then meant any wild animal (cognate with modern German “tier” animal, beast)

“Thorpe” in the Danelaw is another Danish test word for a small village (cognate with modern German dorf.)

[Ram-Alf]

2 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said:

Ah my subject area. You can often trace where the Danes settled by the old Danish suffix “by” which equates with the Anglo Saxon “borough” , (hence by-laws). Lincolnshire is full of villages ending in by. Around Derby there is Bretby (named by Danes for the place where Celtic peoples (Britons) lived, Ingleby (Danish name for the town of the English), Normanton (English name (town) for the place where Normans (Northmen) in other words Danes, lived and Denby (Danish for town of the Danes). It shows within a small area how celts, Anglo Saxons and Danes lived and got on)

And of course there is Derby, town of the deer, but not the animal we now call deer. Deer then meant any wild animal (cognate with modern German “tier” animal, beast)

“Thorpe” in the Danelaw is another Danish test word for a small village (cognate with modern German dorf.)

Looking at the map Uttox posted, Wasn't Wareham initially a strong hold of the Vikings, They used to manufacture their helmets there with the horns sticking out at the side, When asked by an Anglo Saxon why do you have horns on the side of your helmets the Viking replied...it's how we...wear em

 

 

I'll get me coat ?

[Van der MoodHoover]

You're not going to convince me that the wirral is in the south... 

[strawhillram]

18 hours ago, Gritstone Ram said:

Where is the cut off between North and South? Once rumored to be the Watford Gap but now thought to be Beeston?

Oxford

[AndyinLiverpool]

11 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said:

Oxford

Oxford's a complete dump