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Matchday Thread - Charlton Athletic v Derby County (06/08 15:00)


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On 02/08/2022 at 13:43, Carl Sagan said:

Sibs: Loach  Oduroh  Chester  Forsyth  Smith  Stretton  McGoldrick  

Thompson and Stearman miss out.

You do have to wonder at the wisdom of having 3 defenders on the bench.  One of Oduroh/Smith and Forsyth give you positional coverage over the entire back 4, and in a real emergency you can drop one of the midfielders or wingers back.   We're much more likely to want fresh legs in midfield and up front than a 3rd replacement defender.

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56 minutes ago, Donnyram said:

Ipswich now much easier to get to with the A12 / A14.  My lad has started a job there so was down at the weekend, albeit travelling from Doncaster.  2 hours 50 mins…… suspect similar from Derby

It's still one of the three most expensive journeys to make on the train and top 6 for time spent on the train getting there. Also top 3 or 4 for driving instead.

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48 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said:

You do have to wonder at the wisdom of having 3 defenders on the bench.  One of Oduroh/Smith and Forsyth give you positional coverage over the entire back 4, and in a real emergency you can drop one of the midfielders or wingers back.   We're much more likely to want fresh legs in midfield and up front than a 3rd replacement defender.

Really interesting, especially now we have 5 subs yet only 7 including a keeper on the bench. My thoughts were we need our forwards options so McGoldrick and Stretton are a must if both fit. Then we have 2 new midfield options here as Knight can move there as well as bringing Smith on. But for a tough away game at The Valley we should have defensive coverage across the back 4 and if we're winning with time running out may very well want to bring on another centre half and close the game out. 

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54 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said:

Really interesting, especially now we have 5 subs yet only 7 including a keeper on the bench. My thoughts were we need our forwards options so McGoldrick and Stretton are a must if both fit. Then we have 2 new midfield options here as Knight can move there as well as bringing Smith on. But for a tough away game at The Valley we should have defensive coverage across the back 4 and if we're winning with time running out may very well want to bring on another centre half and close the game out. 

It's interesting that we didn't actually do that against Oxford. We had subs to spare and Stearman on the bench, but we bought Thompson on for NML to give us an extra body in the middle, rather than an extra one at the back.  Obviously it may have been situational (Oxford weren't exactly pumping long balls into the box), but if that's a genuine change in strategy between Rosenior and Rooney, then having a genuine centre half on the bench (as opposed to Forsyth as a utility player to play there in case of injury), is much less useful.  You aren't really swapping centre halves during a game for any reason other than injury, especially when all four of our main centre halves are quite similar (they're basically all big, strong, decent in the air, but a bit slow).

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9 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Wildsmith

Davies   Cashin

Knight   Bird   Roberts

Smith   Hourihane

Mendez-Laing   Collins   Barkhuizen

 

Subs: Loach, Oduroh, Stearman, Forsyth, Tommo, Sibley, Dobbin

I think that’s about as good as it gets right now while McGoldrick isn’t ready.

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9 hours ago, maxjam said:

 

Hard to believe he still so young by the way he speaks. He’s incredibly mature, especially compared to somebody like Jesse Lingard who for a 29-year-old still sounds and acts like a prepubescent teen.

Jason Knight will have a good career. Similarly to Jeff Hendricks, he isn’t blessed with the technical ability of a Will Hughes but his drive, determination, maturity and versatility will see him go far. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Wildsmith

Davies   Cashin

Knight   Bird   Roberts

Smith   Hourihane

Mendez-Laing   Collins   Barkhuizen

 

Subs: Loach, Oduroh, Stearman, Forsyth, Tommo, Sibley, Dobbin

cant argue with that GoC. every position covered on the bench aswell, to some degree

would like to see a proper striker on there tho

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2 hours ago, OohMartWright said:

I think that’s about as good as it gets right now while McGoldrick isn’t ready.

Got to be Stearman dropping out of the squad when McGoldrick is fit.

It becomes tricky when we get a RB in. Knight moving into midfield and Smith dropping to the bench. Do you drop Oduroh or Tommo from the squad? ?‍♂️

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