Stuniverse Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 According to the Athletic, apparently, Joe McClaren has left his Head of Recruitment role at DCFC https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/derby-county-figure-makes-pride-park-exit/ Derby4Me, TomTom92, Abu Derby and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 We haven't been able to recruit for a year, so what was the point in having him here during that time? jimtastic56, Ram@Lincoln, GboroRam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I’m devastated. He did such a good job. Nick Blackman and Florian Josefzoon were incredible finds. The_Sheriff, EtoileSportiveDeDerby, Derby4Me and 13 others 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 That was a real nonsense of a position, under embargo, no money…. no point in his employment. When we could recruit did Mr McLaren Jr ever do much for us ?? Kathcairns and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Criticising the expensive duffers we signed is easy, but wasn't he also in some way responsible for some of the excellent academy recruitment we've done over the last 5 years or so? RadioactiveWaste, bimmerman, Stuniverse and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I’m devastated. He did such a good job. Nick Blackman and Florian Josefzoon were incredible finds. Blackman, Anya, Johnson, Butterfield wasn't on him. He was appointed during Mac Mk2 Josefzoon was on his watch Edited May 16, 2022 by sage RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, sage said: Blackman, Anya, Johnson, Butterfield wasn't on him. He was appointed during Mac Mk2 Josefzoon was on his watch Please don't let facts get in the way of a gold old recruitment team bashing. Comrade 86, RadioactiveWaste, Ramslad1992 and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, roboto said: We haven't been able to recruit for a year, so what was the point in having him here during that time? Judging by the amount of money weve spaffed on some real crap its a longer than a year bring back the much maligned but under rated simon clough Edited May 16, 2022 by NottsRam77 GB SPORTS, RadioactiveWaste, jimtastic56 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Having listened to the McClaren podcast, where Joe guested, I have a lot of sympathy for him, that he'd find players and recommend them, and then see them go elsewhere. He had a plan to bring in up-and-coming Dutch players to eventually sell on, but that never happened, especially with the manager being changed every season, mid-season, or before they got to double figures. RoyMac5 and sage 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Macintosh said: Having listened to the McClaren podcast, where Joe guested, I have a lot of sympathy for him, that he'd find players and recommend them, and then see them go elsewhere. He had a plan to bring in up-and-coming Dutch players to eventually sell on, but that never happened, especially with the manager being changed every season, mid-season, or before they got to double figures. Did he mention any players he recommended that we missed out on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Were Byrne, Marshall, CKR, Stearman, Allsop, Lawrence, Shinnie, even Rooney not also under his recruitment jurisdiction? Maybe even youth recruitment with a view to first team such as Plange and Ebiowei? sage and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, sage said: Blackman, Anya, Johnson, Butterfield wasn't on him. He was appointed during Mac Mk2 Josefzoon was on his watch Thought he was here before that but McClaren promoted him to Chief Scout. Might be wrong. Apologies to Joe, but the recruitment team had to go either way up. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 42 minutes ago, Carnero said: Criticising the expensive duffers we signed is easy, but wasn't he also in some way responsible for some of the excellent academy recruitment we've done over the last 5 years or so? I think the academy recruitment team was an entirely separate department. Ironically, wasn’t Mels son involved in that, or have I made that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, sage said: Blackman, Anya, Johnson, Butterfield wasn't on him. He was appointed during Mac Mk2 Josefzoon was on his watch Signings when he was senior scout: Jan 2014 - Roos, Bamford, Naylor 14/15 - Thorne, Christie, Whitbread, Mascarell, Ibe, Butland, Albentosa, Shotton, Best, Bent, Ince, Lingard, Warnock Signings when he was head of recruitment: Mac II onwards Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Signings when he was senior scout: Jan 2014 - Roos, Bamford, Naylor 14/15 - Thorne, Christie, Whitbread, Mascarell, Ibe, Butland, Albentosa, Shotton, Best, Bent, Ince, Lingard, Warnock Signings when he was head of recruitment: Mac II onwards That is a decent record as senior scout to be fair., especially the loans. Comrade 86 and Ghost of Clough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Bye, bye then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I think the academy recruitment team was an entirely separate department. Ironically, wasn’t Mels son involved in that, or have I made that up? You may well be right. RadioactiveWaste and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I think the academy recruitment team was an entirely separate department. Ironically, wasn’t Mels son involved in that, or have I made that up? Mels son was head of emerging talent for a few years and then head of technical scouting. Think the whole department needs rebuilding from the ground up to be honest. Nothing against either Joe or Harry and i'm sure they must be competent at their jobs, but i'd rather not have the recruitment team packed with family members of the old regime. jimtastic56 and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I think either way (he was good but not listened to / he was not very good / bit of a mixed bag) the clubs recruitment needed to be smarter and going forward I doubt many of us had "the recruitment team" on our "must be saved" list. Asanovic70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 its one thing to think a player might be worth recruiting, its surely someone elses choice to spend millions of pounds on them and give them a four year deal on immense wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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