LazloW Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) I’m normally very balanced and fair minded (I think?) but I’d be more than happy to see a few other clubs go through similar pain to us. Not necessarily go out of existence, but suffer in the same way we have in terms of being pilloried, much of the time for imagined, misunderstood or exaggerated ‘crimes’, victimised and treated about as unfairly as you can by the EFL (who I still can’t believe haven’t been taken to court over their disciplinary procedures - completely flawed - or their collusion with Boro), other clubs coming in and exploiting our situation both in terms of ludicrous ‘charges’ against us or poaching players, the ridiculous rules (again EFL) that actively try to impede any way of getting out of the mess, rules (again EFL) which somehow allow you to be punished multiple times for the same misdemeanours and the complete lack of discretion used by the EFL to help us in any way. Yep, I’d be ok with other fans having the same experience; might teach them some humility. BUT much more than this, the more clubs that go through this, the more likely it is that they will learn they need to change; need to find a way to level the playing field, stop the need for clubs to massively overspend to compete with parachute payments, address the obscene disparities between the PL and EFL and so on and so forth. Anyway, bitter rant over. Sorry. Edited June 30, 2022 by LazloW Dordogne-Ram, Woodypecker, SirBrian and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: General running costs of the club (stadium and training ground) will be about £10m. Add wages, transfer instalments due, and other costs and I see very little possibility of making a profit in L1 without player sales. Surely with our gate we can have a strong L1 squad and still be on an even financial keel. Have you excluded the sins of the past from your calculation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggins Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big Trav said: Wonder what time it’ll happen today. If it happens today ? Interfrastically ? Edited June 30, 2022 by Miggins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, wombatram said: Anyone not just a little curious that this has been completed very quickly? Would love to know how close the Clowes group is currently, with a certain figure of the past… ? Do you really think that any credible businessman rescuing and attempting to revive our club would really entertain any involvement whatsoever of the person who so recklessly brought it to the edge of destruction in the first place? Central to the project of acquiring the ground from him was completely extinguishing any control he still held. It would be akin to sleeping with the enemy. Furthermore we have barely heard a word from the usually verbose former owner in the past two years and there's a very good reason for that - his humiliation in this county is total and no one wishes to hear from him again. He is the least likely person ever to be associated with Derby County in the future. He's out of this club forever and leaves with no redeeming features. I can't even bring myself to utter his name anymore. And please don't suggest he could become a sleeping partner ?? Your bogey man has left the building forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, samtheram83 said: Bit off topic but if he’s bought the company that owns the stadium does that mean all contracts such as food and beverage provisions continue? Or will he be able to get new people in? Given the spider's web of companies that DCFC used to make up, I'm not 100% sure where these contracts sit, but I don't think it will be GN202 (stadium). There's Club DCFC (hospitality and events) plus Stadia DCFC (manages the stadium) so I suspect it may have fallen with both of those. I guess it depends on how it's all restructured in the takeover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: Do you really think that any credible businessman rescuing and attempting to revive our club would really entertain any involvement whatsoever of the person who so recklessly brought it to the edge of destruction in the first place? Central to the project of acquiring the ground from him was completely extinguishing any control he still held. It would be akin to sleeping with the enemy. Furthermore we have barely heard a word from the usually verbose former owner in the past two years and there's a very good reason for that - his humiliation in this county is total and no one wishes to hear from him again. He is the least likely person ever to be associated with Derby County in the future. He's out of this club forever and leaves with no redeeming features. I can't even bring myself to utter his name anymore. And please don't suggest he could become a sleeping partner ?? Your bogey man has left the building forever. so.. what you're saying is "let's rename the East Stand in honour of him!"?? Am I reading it right? Dordogne-Ram, John Doe and ck- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: Completely agree. And those fans that sang about having a party, etc, whilst it’s not nice and makes you angry we just have remember they are the minority and every club has them. All the fans have some of those clubs I’ve spoken to over the last 9 months or so have genuinely wished us well and hope we survive. At the end of the day, they need the rivalry and banter as it’s part of being a football supporter. I do hope that if we visit a club in that situation no one from this club would do the same thing. Would never wish this on any club. FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geriatram Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 He is still the owner of DCFC according to the official web site. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: Do you really think that any credible businessman rescuing and attempting to revive our club would really entertain any involvement whatsoever of the person who so recklessly brought it to the edge of destruction in the first place? Central to the project of acquiring the ground from him was completely extinguishing any control he still held. It would be akin to sleeping with the enemy. Furthermore we have barely heard a word from the usually verbose former owner in the past two years and there's a very good reason for that - his humiliation in this county is total and no one wishes to hear from him again. He is the least likely person ever to be associated with Derby County in the future. He's out of this club forever and leaves with no redeeming features. I can't even bring myself to utter his name anymore. And please don't suggest he could become a sleeping partner ?? Your bogey man has left the building forever. @_derby5hire has been spreading this possibility for whatever reason, probably to keep himself relevant. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, IncredibleKoosh said: That or Mel is refusing to give up his parking space. Or Gordon Guthrie's Vauxhall Viva needs towing away GB SPORTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, samtheram83 said: Bit off topic but if he’s bought the company that owns the stadium does that mean all contracts such as food and beverage provisions continue? Or will he be able to get new people in? Depends on the providers' contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmoram1995 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 There’s some wild rumours on a wild day today apparently hourihane and Chester have provisionally signed , Terrell Thomas , bourkhouizen too plus rumours of ex Man U player Gabriel Heinze coming in as a coach I don’t know if this was a pre Rooney thing but I think today might end up being a wild day. prediction - takeover announced at 4.00 PM picture of Clowes , rosenior with derby flag 6.00pm hourihane and chest announced tomorrow morning + Davies , Forsyth , stearman and cashin signed new deals Byrne , Buchanan, Lawrence gone by the weekend plus some wildcards on trial like 5-6 players on trial nogbad van 50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRevolution Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Back, no movement Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 If we are signing players anywhere close to the calibre of Hourihane, Barkhuizen and Chester after literally being days away from not having a club I think I’ll have to go for a lie down. ridiculously good signings at league one level for any club, let alone a club close to death for the last year twelveincher, jimtastic56 and DCFC1388 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 In a nutshell Same bloke retweets this. Then has this to say on Derbys staff losing their livelihoods and getting no redundancy for 12 months, at a rate of 10-20% of the amount really due. A Wigan fan as well of all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelveincher Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, Derbados said: If we are signing players anywhere close to the calibre of Hourihane, Barkhuizen and Chester after literally being days away from not having a club I think I’ll have to go for a lie down. ridiculously good signings at league one level for any club, let alone a club close to death for the last year The Hourihane link almost seems too good to be true. 25 plus matches last season for a team finishing in the Championship play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, twelveincher said: The Hourihane link almost seems too good to be true. 25 plus matches last season for a team finishing in the Championship play offs. If he winds up here with 15 k a week on the table from 6 or 7 championship clubs likely in the offing, I'll season Kenny Burns pants and eat them. Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, DerbyRevolution said: Back, no movement Osteopath, you need Hans Datdo-Dishes, Steve How Hard? and nogbad van 50 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 SaffyRam, Premier ram, jimtastic56 and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarneOut Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 56 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: For me I don't think of other fans, I have no interest of other fans, Those that sang "we're gonna party when Derby die" are about as thick as they come. Not a droplet of a tear will I spill if one of those people who savaged us on social media, Sung about us dying, Or stole money from us with outlandish charges of foul play...go Bust! So, you'd rather sink to their level, than rise above it? Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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