Crewton Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 £3M would have been a record fee paid for a League 2 player and quite a gamble, whatever hindsight now says about that. The club was hard up against the end of the transfer window, Exeter were going well in L2, so it's entirely plausible that they hoiked the price to put Derby off. Whatever you think of it, that leaves a bad taste in the mouth and I certainly wouldn't have gone back in for him in the summer and risked getting disrespected in that way again. I presume the club were similarly taken advantage of when they signed Butterfield and Johnson on the last day of the 2015/16 transfer window after Hughes and Bryson were declared "out for the season". They clearly didn't possess the promise of Watkins, but how could the club possibly just carry on doing that? How many times have players been signed from L2 clubs and flopped in the Championship? Fans who obsess about this need to get over it. Players don't always show their promise on moving to a higher level anyway - some can't even hack it at a bigger club in the same division - just look at all the players who've left Brentford for big fees and flopped. Watkins is an exception but might just as easily have flopped at Derby like so many before him. Carnero and May Contain Nuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Crewton said: £3M would have been a record fee paid for a League 2 player and quite a gamble, whatever hindsight now says about that. The club was hard up against the end of the transfer window, Exeter were going well in L2, so it's entirely plausible that they hoiked the price to put Derby off. Whatever you think of it, that leaves a bad taste in the mouth and I certainly wouldn't have gone back in for him in the summer and risked getting disrespected in that way again. I presume the club were similarly taken advantage of when they signed Butterfield and Johnson on the last day of the 2015/16 transfer window after Hughes and Bryson were declared "out for the season". They clearly didn't possess the promise of Watkins, but how could the club possibly just carry on doing that? How many times have players been signed from L2 clubs and flopped in the Championship? Fans who obsess about this need to get over it. Players don't always show their promise on moving to a higher level anyway - some can't even hack it at a bigger club in the same division - just look at all the players who've left Brentford for big fees and flopped. Watkins is an exception but might just as easily have flopped at Derby like so many before him. Some cracking tales of failed signings from Harry Rednapp in this pod cast, Around 8mins in. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0b0bz5f#xtor=CS8-1000-[Discovery_Cards]-[Multi_Site]-[GR02]-[PS_SOUNDS~N~~P_SackedintheMorningHarryRedknapp] Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Ellafella said: So you weren’t there? Thought not. I watched the game on tv, is that a crime? The game that you think we played well in ???? Stop trying to change the subject, you could always retract the comment and save yourself further embarrassment ????? Edited November 6, 2021 by Jimbo Ram Error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 04/11/2021 at 18:56, RoyMac5 said: Stretton and Baldock for me. CKR is nowhere near back to his best. Here you go @derbydaz22 hardly my problem if you challenge me and haven't read my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Players were certainly at it today - superb performance by the lads..great reaction and apart from a dire ref we could have possibly taken all 3 points..just a shame we switch off at the worst possible times.. derbydaz22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I see Warnock is now available...left Boro jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: I see Warnock is now available...left Boro Warnock's eyebrows and Rooney's thatch....what a combo jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Here you go @derbydaz22 hardly my problem if you challenge me and haven't read my posts. That’s 4 days after you said you wouldn’t go with Stretton?? For what it’s worth I thought Baldock played ok today but we have a young lad banging goals in for the under 23s so let’s at least have him on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, derbydaz22 said: That’s 4 days after you said you wouldn’t go with Stretton?? For what it’s worth I thought Baldock played ok today but we have a young lad banging goals in for the under 23s so let’s at least have him on the bench. He's banging the goals in because he was sent back to the U23s to do that! He wasn't looking like doing it for the 1st team. So goal-scorers need to be scoring - it makes them tick. Lol. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBrian Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 CKR and Baldock as the clock stopped!!! both have never been prolific goal scorers in their careers and they will not score enough goals to keep us up. Pele was playing at 17 if you are good enough you PLAY, Stretton needs a good run of games and good service and do believe Sibley alongside him would prove more of a goal threat than CKR and Baldock, they both must start the games, not come on for the last 10 mins derbydaz22 and alram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Unlucky Alf said: I see Warnock is now available...left Boro Ram-Alf, AbuDerbyDave, DCFC Kicks and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 52 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: He's banging the goals in because he was sent back to the U23s to do that! He wasn't looking like doing it for the 1st team. So goal-scorers need to be scoring - it makes them tick. Lol. If we have to keep dipping him back in the under 23s fine but we need goals and he looks like a decent bet at the moment he simply can’t be any worse than our current options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I'm certain he was set back to the 23s to sharpen up bang a few goals in and get that confidence high..hopefully he will be back in during this vital November December run.. Indyram, LeedsCityRam, RoyMac5 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said: If we have to keep dipping him back in the under 23s fine but we need goals and he looks like a decent bet at the moment he simply can’t be any worse than our current options. Yes he could. He's young and inexperienced. Not all the youngsters thrown in the deep end swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes he could. He's young and inexperienced. Not all the youngsters thrown in the deep end swim. I’m not saying throw him in regardless I’m saying he’s a option and who knows he could be anything ? It’s worth a punt in my opinion even if it’s 20 mins here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I see Farke has left Norwich even though they got a first win.. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Yani P said: I see Farke has left Norwich even though they got a first win.. Going to Boro??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Wolfie20 said: Going to Boro??? Just asked him he said..and I quote.. Working for that permed twit...Farke that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SirBrian said: CKR and Baldock as the clock stopped!!! both have never been prolific goal scorers in their careers and they will not score enough goals to keep us up. Pele was playing at 17 if you are good enough you PLAY, Stretton needs a good run of games and good service and do believe Sibley alongside him would prove more of a goal threat than CKR and Baldock, they both must start the games, not come on for the last 10 mins exactly brian, not rocket science is it. If you have good players you get good results, for me rooney is getting oas much as he can out of this group of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said: I see Warnock is now available...left Boro Ram-Alf, 48 hours, Crewton and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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