TheresOnlyWanChope Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Where do you think he would go if he left us, what sort of level ? Championship. Jimbo Ram and Chris_Martin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Not entirely sure he's that great a manager to be honest. When you look at the squad he had at his disposal, scraping through the play-offs was probably sub-par. He did seem to start well in the Prem but with Grealish gone, he's seemed rather short of ideas both in the transfer market and on the pitch. # Obviously he has a massive experience edge, but if we were to sack Rooney it'd cost the club a fortune and I'm not convinced that Derby would be the kind of 'project' Smith would be looking for now. I think Wayne is doing OK all things considered and probably the only option right now in any case. Yes, since we can't afford to sack Rooney he certainly is the only option. It's a very unique situation really. The club gave the managers job to an unqualified novice and he soon found himself to be trying to learn 'on the job' in extreme circumstances. If Wayne can keep the players motivated for the remainder of the season it might at least save some further humiliation, with relegation being inevitable. I don't imagine Rooney will fancy L1, and would probably leave amicably at that point. That's when the nitty gritty of rebuilding the club will start, hopefully with sensible new ownership in place. Jimbo Ram, Comrade 86, RoyMac5 and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, europia said: Yes, since we can't afford to sack Rooney he certainly is the only option. It's a very unique situation really. The club gave the managers job to an unqualified novice and he soon found himself to be trying to learn 'on the job' in extreme circumstances. If Wayne can keep the players motivated for the remainder of the season it might at least save some further humiliation, with relegation being inevitable. I don't imagine Rooney will fancy L1, and would probably leave amicably at that point. That's when the nitty gritty of rebuilding the club will start, hopefully with sensible new ownership in place. Agree, not sure what Macca is laughing at…..fair summary of where we stand currently ? europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 The title of this thread is embarrassing. The poster who started it has disappeared. Can it be closed and consigned to the archives? Tamworthram, Kathcairns, Andicis and 5 others 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick Ram Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 13 hours ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Find it hard to criticise Rooney too much this season. Last season felt different. Derby have fewer options this season, even less competition for places than before, no possibility of buying players and the deduction. Apart from a few games recently, Derby have been a tougher team to beat and had a solid defence. Just still the same attacking problems which isn’t down to coaching or management- it’s lack of options - injuries Depth/ lack of quality. Can’t believe he’s still here to be honest. He doesn’t need the money. He’s fighting and his conduct has been great. If Derby had a goal scorer and a few more players to add depth, the table would be looking different. Rooney is still with us partly because he feels a debt to us for giving him a chance. However, it will mainly be because if he manages to keeps us in the league with all the horse poo he has had to deal with then his reputation as a manager increases dramatically. This then opens up bigger and better jobs to him. Yes, this is cynical and the rest of our fans will not like it but it is my opinion. He has already come out of it looking like a saint. europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Warwick Ram said: Rooney is still with us partly because he feels a debt to us for giving him a chance. However, it will mainly be because if he manages to keeps us in the league with all the horse poo he has had to deal with then his reputation as a manager increases dramatically. This then opens up bigger and better jobs to him. Yes, this is cynical and the rest of our fans will not like it but it is my opinion. He has already come out of it looking like a saint. i think the real reason is that nobody is going to offer him a better job. When it comes down to it, he hasn't actually achieved anything in management. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong, DCFC Kicks and Jimbo Ram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Chris_Martin said: well he did take Derby to the play off final, and beat a few Premier League sides in the cups Japp Stamm did too, should he be in charge of Man United….? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 The constant in all of this is the custodian of the club having a recent penchant for recruiting managers with zero Championship experience and in a lot of these cases zero managerial experience to boot - Clement, Cocu, Lampard, Rooney. Guess his warped logic if he had any was that I recruited "experienced" managers whom failed so why not try it this way now. Jimbo Ram and europia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Japp Stamm did too, should he be in charge of Man United….? ??based on how they currently are, yeah he probably should. MuespachRam and DCFC Kicks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Crewton said: The title of this thread is embarrassing. The poster who started it has disappeared. Can it be closed and consigned to the archives? Why should it be closed? There is still ongoing discussion. Even if we all agreed the title is somehow embarrassing, surely it's only embarrassing for the person who actually wrote it. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Crewton said: The title of this thread is embarrassing. The poster who started it has disappeared. Can it be closed and consigned to the archives? The prize for the most embarrassing thread surely must be the one started a couple of months ago entitled the fans are to blame for the club being in the current predicament. Think that was shutdown by the mods after a couple of hours after it and the originator were subjected to widespread derision and ridicule. Jimbo Ram and kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just waiting till we’ve got our 12 points back and then we can bring the playoff thread back ? Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 16 hours ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Championship. he'd be lucky to get that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Anon said: Why should it be closed? There is still ongoing discussion. Even if we all agreed the title is somehow embarrassing, surely it's only embarrassing for the person who actually wrote it. A discussion that doesn't already have about 15 other threads for it? Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris_Martin said: he'd be lucky to get that? Don’t know about that. If he worked at another club with deeper squad and transfer budget he would probably be given a chance. He’s already proved he will stick with his players and work through difficult times. The current squad has limited quality and is very thin, don’t know many more managers would get much more out of the team. Also, the team is getting draws and narrow defeats. Not as if they’re getting thrashed every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Don’t know about that. If he worked at another club with deeper squad and transfer budget he would probably be given a chance. He’s already proved he will stick with his players and work through difficult times. The current squad has limited quality and is very thin, don’t know many more managers would get much more out of the team. Also, the team is getting draws and narrow defeats. Not as if they’re getting thrashed every week. yep, but if you look on paper all he has achieved is avoiding relegation last season thanks to other results going our way. I seriously doubt other clubs would be willing to take a chance on him based on that. If they do, it'll be due to his name not ability europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Please use the thread above for Wayne Rooney chat on whether he should be sacked, the state of his barnet/beard/shoes or anything else you fancy. Edited November 8, 2021 by ThePrisoner Crewton, RoyMac5 and Carnero 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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