Dean (hick) Saunders Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, I know nuffin said: Have either Appleby or gadsby got or proved they have enough cash to actually but the club. You “only” need to have more than the liquidated assets value (ie sell players and…. Not much else left…) and cover admins fees then you could have conversations in the context of.. “Sorry EFL hit us for more points as we can’t pay any creditors much so we’ll have to go the Luton route and take it from there…. Otherwise liquidate then EFL if that’s what you want”.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Colluding in the fans dislike/hatred of Mel Morris is not a way I'd chose to build trust. Nor is it a way that leads to an increase in trust from me Chris! Shows he's a good judge of character though which is in his favour GenBr and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: The optimistic posters, or even the realistic ones, haven't been too right in the last few years have they. People might not like what he says, but he is far more likely to be right than most people on here. I've read post after post from people stating we won't get points deductions, from people claiming to know accounting laws and God knows what else that had me thinking things would be OK. Turns out things aren't OK and haven't been for years now ? I think most people are well aware of the threat of liquidation without seeing a post about it every single day. At that point it just becomes an “I told you so” if the worst does happen. I know nuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: It’s all down to parachute payments and their anti competitive impact on the Championship. Clubs are overspending massively, in an attempt to reach the promised land. For me, if clubs do break P&S rules, they should all be treated in the same way, and promotion to the Premier league shouldn’t provide some sort of amnesty against a points deduction. P&S for me is where football falls down, It's crippled us!, And no doubt has a very negative effect on others, Sure you should only spend what you can afford ie a % of revenue, Or get a sugar Daddy/Mummy who's got nowt better to do than wave their millions goodbye, But it's now an accountants game...or would appear to be? Robbing Peter to pay Paul, Borrowing, Setting up other companies to dilute debts, Can Professional football in England carry on with 92 fulltime clubs, There's clubs barely surviving down with the dead men in league 2, Oldham athletic were a premier league club circa 25 years ago...now heading towards the National League. Yes the EFL and the PL are talking about Parachute payments, But who in the bottom half of the PL are going to vote to get rid...0 Kathcairns, Miggins and I know nuffin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 CK giving official statement at end of today . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 How are the administrators being paid!? The figures released for how much they’re charging was alarming, are they dragging their feet to milk us also? Do they really have our best interests at heart? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodypecker Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) CK will be pulling out then. Toys and pram going their separate ways, because he's not been told he is the preferred bidder? Edited December 23, 2021 by Woodypecker atherstoneram, GB SPORTS, r_wilcockson and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, nottingram said: I think most people are well aware of the threat of liquidation without seeing a post about it every single day. At that point it just becomes an “I told you so” if the worst does happen. But I don't see what the problem is, even if it is a case of someone using it to say "I told u so". Surely if someone was actually right (for once) and a takeover happened, or a points deduction was avoided or we absolutely nailed a transfer window, the good news merchants would tell us doomers "I told u so". And u know what, I would absolutely LOVE it, because it means we have finally done some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, Curtains said: Can’t see any positive news with CK talking pulling out. . Its ridiculous He’s not pulling out he’s been led to believe he won’t win. So the admins have a better offer which is positive news Ramarena, GB SPORTS, FlyBritishMidland and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Curtains said: CK giving official statement at end of today . He's going to drop his interest, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Rev said: He's going to drop his interest, isn't he? I have no idea mate to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, r_wilcockson said: There are obviously problems that the administrators are having difficulty overcoming, their role is to get the best possible result for creditors not to pamper to prospective new owners. I would say committing over £60M over the next 2 years is not much when you consider the debt we have. If the above is genuine he sounds more like a petulant child,it is not another fake deadline, they have never said that was guaranteed, they have always said,we expect, we hope. Things are obviously more complicated than anticipated and may be having problems coming to an agreement with creditors. FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, PistoldPete said: Statement from the admin team is simply not good enough. if there are delays given the previous communications from them then they need to be explicit about why. it’s no good talking about positive discussions they are having. Kirchner doesn’t seem to think it’s positive. Maybe he won’t be the preferred bidder but really right now if he drops out the preferred bidder could be chosen by default .. there might be only one left! You are not entitled to know anything about the situation,they do not have to be explicit to anyone why there are delays Wolfie20, Ram-Alf and Gaspode 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 liquidation is looming large me thinks ? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: He’s not pulling out he’s been led to believe he won’t win. So the admins have a better offer which is positive news ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Who knows,creditors might have rejected the offer put to them,why would they accept say 25% of what they are owed when the club has £1M players on the books,sell the best players,raise as much as you can and come back with another offer.Also it won't have gone unnoticed that the club didn't sell Buchanan when they had an offer made for him to help reduce or seem to want to reduce the debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, Curtains said: CK giving official statement at end of today . Is that uk time or us time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Who knows,creditors might have rejected the offer put to them,why would they accept say 25% of what they are owed when the club has £1M players on the books,sell the best players,raise as much as you can and come back with another offer.Also it won't have gone unnoticed that the club didn't sell Buchanan when they had an offer made for him to help reduce or seem to want to reduce the debt. Repeating the same thing 100 times doesn’t make it true. selling players in a fire sale will put buyers off, in fact that’s exactly what Kirchner is saying. Andicis, r_wilcockson and I know nuffin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, PistoldPete said: Repeating the same thing 100 times doesn’t make it true. selling players in a fire sale will put buyers off, in fact that’s exactly what Kirchner is saying. No it doesn't make it true but it is logical. Creditors won't be concerned about the club selling players,all they will be interested in is getting as much as they can back, if that includes getting rid of players in a fire sale putting off prospective new owners is not something the creditors will lose any sleep over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, atherstoneram said: No it doesn't make it true but it is logical. Creditors won't be concerned about the club selling players,all they will be interested in is getting as much as they can back, if that includes getting rid of players in a fire sale putting off prospective new owners is not something the creditors will lose any sleep over Sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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