May Contain Nuts Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just another article to make the idiot public think we've actually done something deserving of such treatment Reggie Greenwood, Curtains, RadioactiveWaste and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dimmu said: I think I'd prefer -17. It would make EFL look even more bloodthirsty. cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Nixon though writes in The Sun on Sunday this morning that the EFL ‘had the power’ to push for a much larger penalty for Derby County’s financial misconduct – he writes that, should the case have gone to an independent disciplinary commission, then the EFL could’ve pushed for a 17-point deduction rather than a 9-point deduction. All smoke and no fire? Derby County and the EFL don’t have the best relationship it seems. The club have broken the rules and are rightfully set to pay a heavy price, but in the midst of this ongoing saga between the two it seems like the EFL have started to throw their weight about somewhat. As Derby look for ways around their points punishments it seems the EFL are trying to back them into a corner and show to them that they have no way out of their current predicament and that relegation is indeed the only outcome for them this season. League One is beckoning for the Rams and with it will come a lot of changes at the club. @@@@@@@@@ I say the EFL are ar??????s Im starting to think we are being victimised OH hang on I always knew that was the case . Duck them Edited November 14, 2021 by Curtains Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Bend the rules all you like if you go up, but if you don't get promotion the EFL will bully you all the way down the leagues, what a nasty, vindictive, self-serving organisation we belong to. angieram, Kathcairns, r_wilcockson and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Philmycock said: Bend the rules all you like if you go up, but if you don't get promotion the EFL will bully you all the way down the leagues, what a nasty, vindictive, self-serving organisation we belong to. Completely unsupervised and unaccountable to anyone . Philmycock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I say don’t take the punishment and fight them in the courts. Sparkle and MackworthRamIsGod 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ewe Ram Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I stopped listening as soon as they referred to him as ‘one of the countries leading journalists’. That’s piffle, he’s a click bait artist writing for a rag that can barely be identified as a newspaper MuespachRam, Van der MoodHoover and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I think the administrators pulled the appeal against the 12 points because the efl said its unlikely that Derby would win and if the club lost then instead of adding 9 points the efl could add upto 17 points or have I read that article wrong. If I'd read it correctly it would make sense that the administrators had pulled the appeal even though that could make the sale of the club very difficult. A relegated club is likely to fetch a lot less money. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Curtains said: I say don’t take the punishment and fight them in the courts. I would agree but not if that lengthy uncertain process costs us good potential buyers and hence the continued existence of our club. EFL know this. And who would pay if the appeal against -12 admin punishment rumoured to be £300k? Edited November 14, 2021 by CBRammette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Curtains said: i-Ram, Crewton and Curtains 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Our pr has been appalling throughout this whole business and we've let the EFL completely dictate the narrative. I can't for the life of me work out what the EFL is for.... - it doesn't write good, clear rules - it doesn't police its rules effectively and reasonably - it doesn't negotiate good deals on behalf of its members - it doesn't prevent bad things happening to clubs - it doesn't appear unbiased and puts out shockingly worded and insinuating statements It's disgraceful really. It seems to be nothing more than a clique of has-beens in thrall to vested lobby groups. The fact that we were represented in one of these and completely failed to move the agenda to our advantage is merely the latest example of rubbish performance by our people. No surprise there then.... ? SirBrian, Steve How Hard?, Kathcairns and 9 others 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, CBRammette said: I would agree but not if that lengthy uncertain process costs us good potential buyers and hence the continued existence of our club. EFL know this. And who would pay if the appeal against -12 admin punishment rumoured to be £300k? It was tongue in cheek as I know we can’t do that as the EFL have snookered us because they could delay the takeover. Having said that I’m still worried about the takeover going forward. We are in a mess and I just hope these administrators know what they are doing In the Wigan case the administrators sounded optimistic from the start didn’t they ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: I stopped listening as soon as they referred to him as ‘one of the countries leading journalists’. That’s piffle, he’s a click bait artist writing for a rag that can barely be identified as a newspaper I think he is an ok guy to be honest. He’s just reporting what he knows and I found the video fascinating ? Administrator costs for Wigan 1.3 Million so I dread to think what ours will be Edited November 14, 2021 by Curtains Adde MuespachRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Our pr has been appalling throughout this whole business and we've let the EFL completely dictate the narrative. I can't for the life of me work out what the EFL is for.... - it doesn't write good, clear rules - it doesn't police its rules effectively and reasonably - it doesn't negotiate good deals on behalf of its members - it doesn't prevent bad things happening to clubs - it doesn't appear unbiased and puts out shockingly worded and insinuating statements It's disgraceful really. It seems to be nothing more than a clique of has-beens in thrall to vested lobby groups. The fact that we were represented in one of these and completely failed to move the agenda to our advantage is merely the latest example of rubbish performance by our people. No surprise there then.... ? The EFL have got the upper hand in the PR battle as football is so tribal. Fans of other clubs can’t wait for other clubs to get spanked by the powers that be, regardless of what they’ve done. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 57 minutes ago, Curtains said: Nixon though writes in The Sun on Sunday this morning that the EFL ‘had the power’ to push for a much larger penalty for Derby County’s financial misconduct – he writes that, should the case have gone to an independent disciplinary commission, then the EFL could’ve pushed for a 17-point deduction rather than a 9-point deduction. 22 minutes ago, Oldben said: I think the administrators pulled the appeal against the 12 points because the efl said its unlikely that Derby would win and if the club lost then instead of adding 9 points the efl could add upto 17 points or have I read that article wrong. If I'd read it correctly it would make sense that the administrators had pulled the appeal even though that could make the sale of the club very difficult. This is just conjecture. In the same way that if we'd gone to appeal we'd have been pushing for no points deduction. The appeal was to be decided by an independent commission, just like when we ended up with £100k fine. Ram-Alf, r_wilcockson and Kathcairns 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: This is just conjecture. In the same way that if we'd gone to appeal we'd have been pushing for no points deduction. The appeal was to be decided by an independent commission, just like when we ended up with £100k fine. I know you are totally glass half full all the time. I am yet to be convinced about a takeover going ahead. Does that make me glass half empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, Curtains said: I know you are totally glass half full all the time. I am yet to be convinced about a takeover going ahead. Does that make me glass half empty. As it's you Curtains, perhaps half drawn Crewton, Mucker1884, Curtains and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, sage said: As it's you Curtains, perhaps half drawn I know one thing the EFL are half baked lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: I know you are totally glass half full all the time. I am yet to be convinced about a takeover going ahead. Does that make me glass half empty. Sceptical. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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